So this is how it went down last night, me and my friends (guy and 2 girls) we were sitting in a local bar, chilled out and talked, suddenly we came to a topic of pick-up.

GIRL 1: There are so many freaks out there.
GIRL 2: Yeah I know what you mean
FRIEND: Well I don't, explain?
GIRL 1: Guys who are picking up girls, they are such a douchebags, they do mean fucked up shit, the kind of shit that they know it won't get them anywhere, but they still do it.
ME: OK, I'm listening.
GIRL 1: OK, so check this out, I was in a club last night and this guy came to me, said he wanted to have sex with me and that he's waiting for me in the bathroom.
ME: (immediately thought of this sound like 60 YOC)
GIRL 1: So I explained to him, nicely that I'm not like that and walked away, but that idiot just kept on following me and saying that I attract him and shit, but hey if I'm not attracted to him, what's the point.
ME: Well you know that some of the guys say that "I'm attracted to you speech just to get into your pants right.
GIRL 2: Tell him what happened when we were on that rock concert.
GIRL 1: This guy came up to me didn't said a word, ripped my shirt off and went for ripping off the bra, there were people all around and nobody didn't do a thing, girl 2 had to come and smack him in the face.
ME: OK I understand that, few guys are really douches when it comes to pick up, but tell me then what is your girl's view on getting laid for a guy.
GIRL 1 & GIRL 2: PLAY HARD TO GET that's all there is to it, don't complicate things, by being a giant dick.

This is how the conversation went down, so here is my question, did we as pick-up guys really became an unsecure douches in general or is this just a lonely example, cause shit like that happens here every day (well I don't tare girls bras off)

And if anyone of you has any thoughts on all there is to PU is play hard to get, cause if that would be HTE SHIT then imo, everyone would get laid every night.

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Play hard to get? How the fuck do you open then? Open and THEN play hard to get? Isn't this just Mystery Method?

And remember girls talk out their ass a lot.

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I am unsure specifically what you are asking, however, in these two cases, the gentlemen in question are not PUA. Being an Alpha is more about gaining value for yourself by raising it in those around you. The cave man routine is pretty sad. But there are some shitty dudes out there.

However, there are ALWAYS two sides to every story, you just met these girls, they could be lying, or it could be a shit test of some sort.

Playing hard to get works with some girls in some cases, however you should always calibrate to your mark.

"Playing hard to get" means "indifference".

Most guys see a beautiful woman anywhere and when they come in contact with her, they completely forget what their task was, and instead get so affected by her physical appearance that they turn into bumbling, nervous wrecks OR the semi-rapist cavemen as we saw above.

Women want men who are not affected by their face value, men who go don't buy into their 'shit tests', as people say here or take the baits. Most importantly men who STILL ARE MEN. Not some "playful man-kid thing".

When you stop apologising and justifying and get affected for/by women, you have won over them.

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+1

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I agree

To further the point its easier than you think to play hard to get , Leaving a text un answered for a few hours or a day . When out with them in a club leave them on there own for a bit go and mingle and mostly mingle with other girls. When your kissing pull away first or dont even kiss them just make it seem that way and turn the cheek. That to me is simple playing hard to get.

However playing these games just's leads to them playing games and it can get quite frustrating at some point you have to quit the bullshit.

I haven't met them, we know each other since primary school, almost 12 years

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