I see what you did there

He's got a point.

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ill admit up front that i didnt read the link. the reason i didnt read the link is because i dont really care because i dont have this problem.

which brings me to my question: why do you have this problem? why are you constantly running into "little princesses" and "serial first daters"? i think a better solution to the problem would be to figure out how you should stop dating these girls. or, even better, just stop dating in general. at least in the traditional sense.

i think if we polled the guys in this forum who are consistently getting laid, most of them would say they pretty much dont date at all. ive met tons of girls online over the last 3 years, and i still pretty much dont date. a quick meetup for drinks is fine. this is essentially only for us to look each other over and make sure we are who we have claimed to be through pics, texts, and emails. i much prefer to take her for a walk or to the mall with me. a small percentage of the time they'll just come straight over to my apartment on the first date.

i guess what im trying to say is that theres really no reason for anyone to have this problem. at least not to the extent that you seem to have it. perhaps you should start there?

I will say that having been in the community since late 2007, although I haven't polled, the instances where someone just said "I don't date, I just pull." have been very few and far between.

The guys who just fuck lots of girls and move on to fuck more, without even having to date, good for them!

Like I mentioned in my post, most guys get into this wanting a girlfriend, not rapid-fire man-whoring. So maybe for some, sure, this advice isn't the message.

And by the way, I've tried the "quick meets for a drink" followed by the walk through the mall/somewhere similar--- several times.

You get called cheap and lousy. Most girls will show up wanting dinner.

Unique problem? No one has it this bad?

People get into pickup because of problems like this.

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i think you misunderstood my point. i'm not talking about "rapid-fire man-whoring" at all. there are some guys who do that i'm sure, and like you said, good for them. when i said that the guys on this forum who are good "don't date" i just meant that they just go places and bring the girls with them and show the girls a great time. i'm not saying that they just insta-fuck them the very day they meet them and then leave them. at least i dont lol.


i dont know what to say, except that this just flat out isnt true in my experiences. i'm not saying i'm a MPUA or that i get laid tons, but i have met a lot of girls, especially online (where the problem of meeting up is exacerbated because we dont yet have that first irl interaction where she can decide if shes attracted to me) and i dont think ive ever had to sit through a long, boring getting-to-know-you dinner.

maybe its something simple like youre not building enough comfort and/or attraction prior to the first date. because if a girl is having fun talking to you, she'll naturally wanna meet you and get to know you better. they dont care what they do on the first date as long as its fun. and almost anything is more fun than sitting there across from someone for an hour and a half and having a conversation.

Never had this problem. Tho I don't really suggest a walk thru the mall tho, park maybe but not mall. But then again I take measures to avoid such girls and problems.
Like I said in my first reply to you, not all these guidelines will apply to everyone. There are loads of different girls out there and it seems from looking at your posts again you are dating/picking up the same kind of girls over and over again and such running into the same problem again and again. Not everyone has the same dating problems as you do, I know I don't. Maybe what you should be doing is screening these girls upfront before you take them out. It will save you loads of problems. I know girls do it all the time with guys they just met to see if they are worth while to date/go out with.