Dlv all the way, plus you never know what the other guys knows(you will be surprise the mma knowledge a lot of people have) size is irrelevant, that is a total turn off to women, women like cool, calm guys that can protect them, now disrespect a different story, plus some day you want to get to the level of swing club game... When you act like you do not care, when your girl or any girl your gaming is with other guys, shows that you are the prize, you are confident, and you just don't give a fuck, the girl will like you 50 times more... In The clubs there are 5 guys per girls, when i do dancefloor game i always encounter afc or idiots with no skill trying to take the girl i am dancing or gaming, i even sometimes encourage the girl to dance with them or talk to them, they come back to me in 2 seconds... Plus some girl shit test you trying to get you jealous if act like this is OVER! And women know that dogs that bark and act hyper don't bite(short men syndrome)

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There is a difference being aggressive and being the aggressor.

adults use words and not actions (like hitting someone physically) to stand up for themselves. in school, there is a brutal social hierarchy, with often the male bullies at the top and the fact that u did not have the power to stand up for your gf and put the guy back into place is not necessarily your fault. the way other kids treated this guy and let him be a bully to nice girls has had a lot to do with as many other things about how kids behave that are outside of your control. i think most kids would not know right away how to stand up for a girl that's being disrespected like that openly and it's not like you are born with knowing how to act in that situation. live and learn!

maybe take an assertiveness class. you cannot go back in time and hit that guy, nor hitting is the answer. but you can grow to not feel hurt by not being to stand up at that time by learning to be more VERBALLY assertive. being physically assertive is just a crutch and would actually show desperation i think. also, that girl could have stood up for herself as well. she could have spoke up and put that guy in place. what is she going to do when another guy harasses her in public and you are not around? you cannot pick fights with every idiot who harasses a girl.

u can also think of that guy as AFC, cuz no girl is gonna feel safe around a guy like that no matter how alpha he might think he is. i think maybe u are also feeling jealous because the guy sounds like someone who does things to girls you and most other boys did not do. everyone is different and to each his own. don't let ur fantasies get out of hand.

You should probably stay away from fighting. I mean, in the end, your the one that's gonna be touching her when she's naked.

This - Brilliant

What seems to have been lost on the OP and some advisors here is that physically hitting someone is assault. Stop, take a step back. Think about being in court and having to say 'well, er, the reason I hit this guy is because, er, he made me angry beacuse he was hitting on my girlfriend. Well, actually she's not my girlfriend, but you know, i mean I don't own her, and...but this guy he was like, talking to her, and he was GROPING her, well, he was holding her hand and swinging the racquet, but you know, putting his hands on my woman, who actually isn't my woman...' etc etc.
Fucking weak.

Unless this guy is beating the shit out of her you have no provocation or justification to hit the guy. DLV uberBeta bitch behavior.

you've got it all wrong... violence equates to you having to force things to be done your way (as if otherwise it wouldn't). The truest, most alpha quality to have is getting people to do what you say with your words alone... being an alpha is being a leader, and being a leader is to have enough respect and admiration from those around you that they look to you for guidance.

Look at it this way, who looks more alpha, the guy that fight's someone at the bar, looks like a tool, and gets banned? of the man that can keep a cool head, resolve the situation, and continue having fun? PUA is about controlling yourself, keeping calm and shaping your surroundings. you are failing at that if you resort to baser instincts.

You can't police your girl 24/7, let your possessiveness go, it's a male tendency. If she's actually entertaining his advances and not standing up for you, go flirt with other girls, I'm surprised nobody has said this yet.

A real alpha doesn't have enough one-itis over any one woman to need to feel defensive. A girl who won't stand for herself is needy and isn't good quality anyway, and trying to defend someone who is needy and won't stand for themselves by getting jealous or being verbally or physically aggressive only communicates DLV on your end. Even when you make witty insults back at the guy you're communicating DLV to your girl. Even if you communicate to the girl that you don't like this guy hitting on her that's pretty DLV too, she knows what's going on and she's just being a needy attention whore if she's not standing by her man. The idea is that a man of high value knows he's high value and doesn't need to be defensive, and also looks for a mate who is high value as well.

Just excuse yourself and go hit on someone else, if she asks just be blunt and say you're busy with this guy so I'm going to go talk to some girls. If she gets jealous and pushes the other guy away maybe she's a keeper and if not well maybe you can f-close another girl that night if you're good at PU.

I'm almost inclined to say you were right before in laughing and brushing it off, but where you went wrong was not following it up with hitting on other girls.

Oh yeah little side note, if the guy hitting on your girl has a g/f you should follow up by hitting on his g/f and if you're successful his jealous side will come out and he'll communicate DLV, maybe even try to fight you, and then you can beat his ass (you should of course make a half-assed attempt to resolve first so you look like the good guy) in self-defense and not look like the aggressor, maybe even fuck his g/f. Win win.

We'll I don't think getting physical with a guy is an answer. I always just ignore him and let him do what he wants while i'm generating more social proof by talking to everyone else and strangers. I guess the main point I'm trying to make is that if you're interesting enough, no one will care about him.

Violence = FAIL.

The second you instigate violence you are proving that you do NOT view yourself as ALPHA and feel the need to fight for it. That is major self NEG in front of a girl.

If a guy starts it with you and you defend yourself, that is a PLUS, but only if you DIDN'T START IT. (or instigate it out of insecurity).

If a guy ever walked up to your girl and started getting all up ons with her, just view that as a perfect opportunity to clown him. Do it with wits. Make him feel 2 inches tall, but do it in a way that the girl can laugh at him without him realize he is being directly insulted. use inside jokes and references to things you know she will understand.

If he gets confrontative, use AMOG routines. like "hey dude, we're all having fun here, why you gotta get all caveman". Or if he just won't back down give him props, but with a playful hit to the stomach, just enough to make him reel back for a second and do it with a big smile ("We're cool, just having fun, right dude??" *smack*) then offer your hand to shake. So if he's the one who gets angry faced she will see him as the looser instantly.

Girls like strength, but they hate violence. They like control, but they hate fighting. They thrive on tension, but they hate anger. It's all about keeping it in check.

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Fighting is actually a trait displayed by beta's is society. I saw on a documentry on the discovery channel that beta's will fight with other beta's to demonstrate status to the Alpha of the group. The alpha once he has established his position hardly will ever enter a fight but instead will let his beta do the fighting for him. This is seen in medieval times when a duke or king would have his champion fight in a duel for him. He would never fight in a duel himself unless it was his champion himself who was challenging him. In a similar way think about Big and Rob. Rob is an Alpha male, yet he still has someone who is physically bigger and tougher than him to protect himself. This may seem counter intuitive to most who would think "the biggest and strongest" is always the Alpha, however this is hardly the case. A true Alpha becomes so though social connections and uses his social prowess to tool others to do his bidding.

If you're girl is receptive to being gamed while you are there, then you have not demonstrated enough value to her and you have not demonstrated your alpha status. A girl would never allow another male of lower status than you to game her because she would risk loosing you which would lower her value(after all you actually raise her value thats why she's with you) When I am out even with a girlfriend I am always gaming other girls and the room and make sure that I establish dominance over any social situation. If a guy tried to game one of my girls he would not only be shunned by the girl herself but also by the rest of the group.

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Exactly!

If violence got the chicks, then 2 AM at the bar would look like MMA tryouts. It doesn't work that way. The aggressor is often the douche-bag. You'll score more points standing up to or diffusing the aggressor than you will by losing your cool and being the aggressor, even if you get your ass beat.

The Alpha is in control of himself, he's the guy men follow. Social savvy is more attractive in our human society than physical aggression. The appeal of a physically dominant guy comes in his ability to protect her if needed. You need to be able to finish a fight, not start one.

I think the Dos XX's commercial described it best, "He's a lover, not a fighter. But he's a fighter too so don't get any ideas!"

There are probably many better ways to deal with this effectively, as hitting the guy, although very satisfying, aint too good in modern society. Just learn ways to deal with this in a more tactful way, IMO the best thing to do would be to go and make out with your girl the moment anyone tries it,

1) your showing them whos boss

2) after seeing that theyre gunna be majorly disheartened, i would be

as for violence and being alpha, i think being willing to resort to violence and unafraid of violence to an extent, is definatly alpha. however, theres a fine line between this, and looking for violence

remember, in her eyes all you need to be capable of is to protect her and your kids, not to be able to become violent with every douche u see

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That indicates to me that you've got some problems, it's neither attractive nor smart to start fights for no reason. I'm not saying you should back down from fights, just don't go looking for them.

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