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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 2:44 pm 
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Hi, everybody

This is my first report and it will be long and detailed.
I met this "liberal" HB8 3 weeks ago. This chick has issues I was not aware of, she's used to ONS guys on regular basis after coming out of some bad relationship a few years ago. When we first met in a circle of friends I've done a fair ammount of negs, DHV, C/F quite naturaly because I am perceived as a pretty funny guy. So, before I left I got her phone number, set a date then rescheduled for another next day, it was one friday night.
She texts me saying she'll be a few minutes late, I reply with a "Chicks…" and she sends a "Ha ha :P" back. A few drinks and half an hour later I was doing my thing negging, DHV-ing etc she said "Would you shut up for a minute?" , grabbed me and kissed me. I responded but I didn't act impressed, saying "Not bad, but there's room for improvement".
Anyway she proposed dancing and I made a huge mistake saying I can't dance because injured my knee in february (which is true). She said we'll do it slowly then and I thought "Well, I'm ok with this" but I think it was some sort of a shit test I failed. I kino-ed slightly while dancing, then we got back to the table (mind you we were the only ones dancing there as that pub was not a built for dancing). She started to talk about her mattress but I got the feeling that her mattress bears more tire tracks than a crowded intersection and I went back to DHV-ing her and make her qualify herself a little more. That didn't worked out quite as I expected. I didn't wanted to accept here terms and do things her way - ONS crap. We kept kissing and touching until I said "Well that's enough for now" or something like this.
I was just about to suggest a location change when she said we should go dancing in a club. I was dumb enough to fail this shit test and realized it was a shit test kind of late, when she said we're not going to kiss there. I said that's fine, "I'd rather go some other places, meet some friends but she should go to that club and do her thing" and she was fine with it (a bit dissapointed actually). She shot the dreaded "I don't know you all that well" and I told her that unless the end of the wolrd is coming she might still get a chance to get to know me. We exited the pub and kissed heavily before going on our separate ways. She whispered "Call me tomorrow" which I did altough I realized I shouldn't. I was sliding back into AFC I guess.
I called her the next day to tell her that I can't see her that day as I have other plans and two days later she called asking about my whereabouts. I was out so we met that night, I was out with some friends at the time and didn't show much interest in her (sporadic touches, a neg here and there, nothing else). I think that pissed her off, when we left I kissed her a little then I went staright home. We had some plans for a movie way before we actually dated so next day we went to movies and my ship went down like the Titanic. I was AFC-ing all through the movie day but couldn't regain proper control over myself. We go to a pub after the movie, it's closing time and the bartender, a common friend wants to go to some new bar. Ayway, he definitelly AMOG-ed my by having options aka the new opened bar. Well, needless to say she LJBF-ed me and I replied "That's not an option for e", said good night and "keep in touch". I had the feeling that she was somehow trying to regain contols as I acted aloof before I regressed into AFC.
I dropped out of sight for a week as I had other things to do. I learned about her party girl / ONS habits and I decided to use this whole thing as a mean to educate and challenge myself. I know the golden rule "don't bother with unstable chicks, just leave". So this is what happened next. I wanted to let her know that I do things in my own terms. I called here, she answered promptly, told her to get dressed because we have places to go and things to do. I basically acted like her LJBF meant nothing. I kept on gaming her like nothing happened and I got some good results. Her attraction towards me went through the roof again, I was very careful not to initiate much kino, she didn't pull back at all. Later something unexpected happened: she called up an ex-boyfriend (the guy is madly in love with her so they remained friends) in order to create some sort tension and make way for more shit tests but I managed to pass them. I paid no attention when she was hugging him while looking at me and crap like that.
A few days later we went out again, she calls the orbiter again and this time I thought to myself well, two can play this game. So I called up a friend of mine. He is hitting on a cute chick with zero chances of success but I noticed she is attracted to me, she touches me, rubs my foot whenever she's around… I do not reciprocicate because the dude is a friend of mine and I don't like her all that much. Basically I managed to position myself between the two girls. Once the chick started talking and touching me, my target became more and more active towards me. At one point I went to get me another drink and when I got back she was in my seat, offering me half of it. I told her I really like my seat and the seat likes me back (or some similar shit) so she moved back to hear seat reluctantly.
She reminded me we used to dance in that place in a very intense tonality.
A few drinks later I found her in my seat again, locked in a discussion with the other chick. I thought to myself this is monopolizing the competiton's attention… So I kept talking and joking to the other guys, getting drunk actually (big mistake). That's when I completely lost my frame I guess. I found myself intrigued, she was doing a dissapearing act now and then, and after I few times I was curious enough to check it out and found myself realizing I'm a freaking lapdog. She went to another table in another room, chating some common friends… Eventually she was sitting alone at another table. Another shit test I failed miserably… I sat down saying how about going soemwere else but she declined. We were all pretty drunk at that stage so eventually we all left. She went away pissed and me, the lapdog, went after her. I wanted to actually hug her and asked her "what's going on?" and wanted to kiss her. She avoided me and said "I'm going home. Alone." I told her ok, good night and went to the nearest taxi and went home.
Next day we met to set things straight (she leaves for a few weeks). I told her a little more about shit being done in my terms, rather than her terms and it raised her eye browse now and then. She asked where are we with all this and admited she is attracted to me. I told her that it's obvious we can't be friends but I would keep things the way they are… I hit on her whenever I feel like, she hits on me whenever she feels like… But I will not fuck her in her in my terms. After that she was told me something like "Well, I was drunk last night, it's not important" or "I was faking all that". Felt like she was trying to break me or something but I paid no attention, I responded with a joke saying "Well, in this case I should go home and re-write my entire source code because my perception is definitelly off". I told her good night and left.
Now: I know I've made a lot of mistakes, do smack me for it, show no mercy here, I want your criticism and I want to thank you for it. I'm here to learn.
One thing I would like to ask is this: when you guys realize you're going into AFC, what do you do to get out?


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You were doing good. Then, it all went downhill when you entered your regression.

I am not going to heavily criticise you because I see not point in that. Or time for that.

I am just going to tell you that, NEVER, EVER buy into her frame. The golden rule is that it should always be more about you saying ''NO'', than her saying ''YES''.

If she acts bitchy, let her be. She will call you a lot of undesirable things, and to your face too. Don't let it affect you, she is just frustrated that you're indifferent to her.

As for dealing with regression, stop yourself, take a deep breath and remember how much you hated that side of yourself. You will be out of that frame in no time.

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Thank you, TheDonDraper. When do you think I went into regression?
And more important : how do you deal with realizing "on the spot" that you're backsliding into AFC and get back on the track it without showing it?


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Thank you, TheDonDraper. When do you think I went into regression?
And more important : how do you deal with realizing "on the spot" that you're backsliding into AFC and get back on the track it without showing it?
The fact that you started getting confused by her actions and started buying into her tests, was when you started your slide back to what you were.

And it's easy to realize it, when you feel something which you used to feel.. maybe discomfort or confusion.. you know you're going down that same road. Catch yourself and remind yourself what you are and how these things don't affect you. Do it enough times, you will start believing.

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Yap, great piece of advice. Felt it in my gut but for some reason did not manage to internalize properly. Thank you very much.
I will stick to my guns and will not make further contact.


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Glad to help.

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