I have always been an introvert and alcohol helps me to loosen up. I'm not an alcoholic by any means but two or three drinks makes a big difference. Anything more actually hurts my game because my memory and conversational skills suffer. After a couple of drinks, I am more comfortable, more expressive, more sexual, I escalate more, I dance more, I have more fun and girls have more fun with me. Two or three drinks doesn't seem like much but when you're going out four or five nights a week, it really adds up. I don't want to poison my body and mind just to do better with women. I can't rely on alcohol for day game either. I don't think walking around Target at noon with a Budweiser is a good idea. How can I lower my inhibitions to have just as much success with women, without alcohol? I want to cut out alcohol completely.

alcohol actually stunts your social growth because you become dependent on it, and you don't develop those same social skills as a person, instead of as a drinker.

how to get away from it?

daygame?

not many people drinking at grocery stores, gas stations, book stores, starbucks, etc

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Try improv, it will help you loosen up.

Try vocal lessons. Singing is the most raw and honest thing you can do, and if you can do that, you can put your ego on the line and go out.

Talk to women during the day. You don't have to go for the close every time, but a good interaction or two every day will go a long way towards building your confidence come club night.

Q.

It is all mindset.

I did that too: the first i did when i was in a club, was ordering beer. Therefore I could defer the opening of sets. Then I would wait to finish my beer, to open. Second deferrement of opening. When i finishmy beer, I would a new one.....

Of course, alcohol can loosen up a bit. I can game/open girls without alcohol, it is a matter of experience: once you haven open without alcohol, you will see that alcohol is not needed after all :0

First thing I did was to start buying decent drinks. If you buy the quality liquor/beer I'm not quite as inclined to chug and go for another one like I would buying miller lite.

just keep going out sarging several times a week but don't drink.

Sure the first time or two you will feel a little awkward and self-conscious but once you learn to adjust to being sober you will find that you actually can think sharper, can read people better, can think of what to say quicker and better and when you start to see how drinking makes other people look stupider and more pathetic it will hammer the final nails in the coffin of your drinking days.

Once you get over your social dependence on alcohol you will actually realize that it is harming your social skills and interactive abilities rather than helping it.

Once you are able to do it sober you realize how much more skilled you will be and how much easier it is pull HBs.

Again, like everything in pick-up, go slowly. You said you order two or three drinks... so reduce it, first to two drinks. Don't drink more than two. Then after two weeks, reduce that to one. You will see that you can still open and it makes no difference. I don't know what you are drinking but having one beer a night is not alcohol dependence... that would already be "ok" as far as I'm concerned. There is nothing wrong with being just a little "high" and having a good vibe... but anything more than that will hurt you for sure, and you don't need it.

But there is no better feeling than being 100% sober and still being able to approach... I can do this now after years of chickening out, it makes me feel like superman.

Get nothing but water at the club and learn how to dance(Just basics). No one is drinking on the dance floor, there's tons of targets and finally tap water is free. That's what I do anyway.

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tap water is better .. alcohol only makes you tired and dehydrated .. it smells horrible as well.

try to imagine a lavender cotton scent coming out of your mouth and how wonderfull it smells ... this is probably what you smell like if you don't do alcohol.

1 or 2 beers isn't wrong ... doing it every night is not such a good idea - culmulative effect of stacking bad habits over extended periods of time.

if you cannot keep your hands off alcohol there is work to be done ... you either care what other people think of you subconciously ( other people drink - cultural conditioning ). having no discipline is just a symptom of a psychological issue or it can be you are resisting uncomfortability....

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when going out for nightgame sometimes i would just buy one beer .. making sure it's a brown bottle where no one can tell if you've finished it or not.. but the point is, that by having that one bottle of beer around.. psychologically you dont feel like an outcast because your not really drinking.. you'll blend in w/o anyone knowing that your actually not poisoning your body while they all are..

let me say something about daygame.. from my experience ( since im currently trying to get great at daygame.. it's much harder than night game in the sense that there is no way of really introducing "substances" like alcohol into your game w/o coming off like a creep.. so daygame requires you to be "onpoint" with your material.

Now with that said, there is no way that you are going to get rid of Approach Anxiety.. it's something that you just have to DEAL with. It comes with the game and even the greatest PUA still has to deal with this "Resistance".. so all we can do is give you techniques of how to deal with AA.

-one way is to get yourself in the "talkative" mood early on before even thinking of doing heavy pick up.. just talk to anyone about anything.. ask a security guard for the time.. ask a girl u dont find attractive for directions to someplace.. etc..

-stop thinking of Approach as an "ANXIETY" becasue it's not.. think of it as Approach Excitement.. because all you really are is excited when you meet someone.. (got this from someone on this board, so credit goes to that person)

-man up and do it.. (this is what i did)..

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Another thing I just thought of is that I typically get drinks with a girl on a day 2. If I ask her to meet up for a drink and then I just get a water, is that wierd? I mean water is a drink.

No that is not weird. "meet for a drink" is a euphamism for let's just hang out in a casual SPAM without a lot of other activity going on where we can just hang out and be ourselves.

The only thing that might possibly come across as wierd or creepy is if you are drinking water but pressuring her to drink alcohol or continuously buying her alcoholic drinks while you just drink nonalcoholic stuff.

As long as you let her order what she wants and make no issue of the alcohol vs nonalcohol then it is all ok.

Try spacing them out, like a drink an hour.

Or you could try lighter alcohol, something just enough to get you buzzed.

Best answer is to go out sarging one night a week, either Friday or Saturday; have ZERO alcohol, not even one. Reward yourself the next night of sarging by having as much as you want. Makes notes of the differences between the two nights.

One other option is the penalty; 1:2 ratio of alcohol to water...Drink two cups of water between each drink...

Just do it man. I gave up drinking after I broke my leg so that I would heal quicker. I feel so much healthier now. And my Sundays are no longer wasted.

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