Have you ever just straight up asked a woman if they want to fuck or tell them you want to fuck them? Is it good to be this blunt? Sometimes I'll be chatting to someone and the conversation will be about something sexual, and gets to the point where I think they might be down to fuck, but how would you go about asking them if they want to or telling them that's what you want? Or is it just not a good idea?

bad idea, experiments like this have been done for psychology. I've seen these videos in my college class. Only time I see this working is if you sort of work your game and build a rapport usually in a club/bar setting (if you're good cause it's hard there) and then be blunt. Usually they'll be blunt too in this regard and they'll be sure to be cockblockers alot of the time.

Ok, should you never tell a woman you want to fuck her or ask if she wants to fuck you? How do you know if this is what she wants to happen or let her know that is what you want?

I guess it depends on the situation of course. There have been times when I have been in bed with a woman and I want to fuck them but I don't know what to do or say to them to indicate this is what I want, without offending her if it's not what she wants.

Say for example I've gone to their house, or they've come to mine, and after we've hung out for the night/come back from a night out we go off to bed. Now if they're a friend, it could be a risky move, but there have times when I've been worried I would ruin our friendship if I made a move, but later found out that I should have made a move because that's what they wanted too!

Is there a good way to test the water so to speak?

here's the deal, if you are that the point that you KNOW she wants to do it, why not just escalate quick and well... do her? if your at that poing but you ask, its very weird and unatural, even if she is picturing you doing her hard that moment, basically no girl will want to verbally tell you they are going to do it.... just think about it, every LR or FR on this forum where the guy gets the F close, usually the girl resists but actually wants it and it works out, its going to be natural for women to resist... and when asked so blunt, its just not gonna go well

Good point, so they often will say no even if they want to? I very rarely KNOW they want it, I often have a feeling they might, or feel there may be a good chance but there's always that voice in the back of my head saying what if you're wrong?

What would be a good thing to do to test what her feelings are? Kiss her neck, maybe move your hand to somewhere suggestive? I have been in this situation more times than I have actually got laid lol.

Why ask? Show her what you want. Demonstrate. Act on it. Asking is the coward's way out.

Ok, what are some good ways of showing what you want without being so direct? Where would you go from the point where you're lying in bed together but are making no physical contact yet, maybe put an arm around her? Is that too sudden and direct? Open to swift rejection without a smoother build up? Or if you're lying there "spooning" but nothing is going on, what would you do next?

This kind of thinking will never get you laid. You WANT to be direct. Show her that you're sexually interested in her. It has to be done sooner or later, or you will very rarely score. You never want to be in this situation. If she's comfortable lying in bed with you and there has been ZERO sexual vibing from the moment you met up until now - you have a big problem. The sexual touching and the whole 'direct' part (which you are clearly trying to avoid) should be shown MUCH before you end up in this situation.
Same applies here as ^above . . . But since you're already in this situation, I can only try helping you from this angle. IF you're in a situation where you are lying in bed with a girl and you're 'spooning' or whatever - and you haven't shown any sexual interest, you obviously have no choice but to try doing it NOW. It might already be too late at this point, so you're gonna have to take a risk.

If she's a good friend that you don't want to risk losing - then don't do anything. Keep her as a friend.

If you're OK with the risk of losing her to get laid or have her as a girlfriend - read on.

You're lying in bed with her and nothing is going on. What I would do is start caressing her hand for starters. Just to see if she will reciprocate to that. If she does, it's a HUGE signal. But since you most definitely have been friendzoned, this can also be a friendly hand caress that means nothing at all.

Meaning that things need to spice up even more from this point.

What I would do next is start playing with her hair and telling her she smells good. If she's still OK with this, I would move on and gently kiss her neck.

Friendzone or no friendzone - if she's OK with ^that last part, you can DEFINITELY just go ahead and kiss her on the lips and start making out with her.

How you pursue things from now is up to you.

Nevertheless, quit trying to avoid being 'direct' all the time. Sooner or later, you need to start showing sexual interest. And in my opinion, doing it sooner saves you time and gives you results faster.

Hell yeah, and they be spazzin and shit about it.

Her: "Oh you're so creepy!"
I'm like, "It's just that you're pretty and you turn me on.."
Her: (no words)

Fuck yeah, I'm a male and damn proud of it. I do think of sex 24/7, and I do live to fuck. But I can't help it..you just turn me on.

What her primitive part of brain wants to do: arch her back and bend over.
What her modern day part of brain says: no way that's so creepy!

Sometimes I just wish I'd be a fucking chimpanzee, I'd be getting it on clockwork. Oo oo ah ah you fine ass females.

Actually chimps have a penile bone, which makes their penises tiny by comparison to humans. It also makes their sex last about 15 seconds. So I'm glad to be human.

Good points guys, thanks I need to get over this fear of being direct, I'm just not comfortable with doing it.