I've read a few of these books, but in the end they either say, 'be yourself' or the Mystery Method, 'follow this mathematical guide to seduce women'.

1) obviously being myself aka: attractive, intelligent, and personable isn't enough to attract women.
2) following a mathematical guide isn't really appealing since it's the guide getting you leid, not yourself.

It's not really a debate. You either take it or leave it. I see that you're trying to resist or you're frustrated in some way.

One thing I can tell is if you have to get on this forum and ask the question about going on a date with her friend tagging along you're nowhere close to having a firm grasp on Mystery Method or what any other pick-up guide tells you. Keep studying.

Some people take the time to figure out what works for them to choose their mate or they let women choose them and settle for 'whatever'. You're not going to be James Bond when you finish the last page of Mystery Method. It's about trying and failing and trying again. It can take years to blend and implement the materials into what works for you and your own personality.

i say go on the 'double date' type thing. tell her you may have to bounce because you've got some other 'important things' to do. make it something that sounds FUN. cause thats all that women want, 'girls just wanna have fu un.' shit is so true man. anyways, if you get bored of the women, use that excuse. women will want something that they have to work harder to get, not something that is just gonna roll over like a bitch. pardon the pun. but the fact you're seriously considering going on this stupid shenanigan is INCREDIBLY indicative that you need to work on your self esteem levels. to be blunt, you definitely don't sound like someone with their head on their shoulders. SO,
1. next time you're walking past a girl who gives you good eye contact, smile and say 'hi'. do that EVERY TIME YOU GET THE CHANCE FOR 2 DAYS. that'll help you get over the 'OMYFUCKING GOD IT HAS A VAGINA' itis. or whatever you wanna call your fear of poon.
2. look up david deangelo's 'on becoming a man' on youtube. play that while you fall asleep, mother fucking brilliant. then the day after you play it while you fall asleep, WATCH him as he speaks.
3. self talk: you obviously think about yourself negatively or in a way that doesn't boost your confidence/self esteem. quit being a bitch and start being a man. the boy must die.
4. memorize this shit, and start using it. it's some of the most fascinating insight i've had into the human psyche for a time.
http://www.changingstates.co.uk/nlp_basics.html
5. don't be afraid to be the bull.

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i seriously think you should tell her you'll "try to make it" and you'll meet her and her friend at the movies (the friend is definitely going right?). Then stand her up. don't go. if her friend is there, she's obviously got somebody "cool" to be there with, right? so let her and her cool friend enjoy the movie together. see how she likes it. beat her at her own game.

i have done this to a guy who did the same thing to me. and he tried again to get my attention. so clearly he was trying to fuck with me.

EDIT: and i think you really have nothing to lose if you do that because as other people have already said, she may have lost interest already, and i think doing this would show your "higher value" or whatever you people call it!

To me, this smells a little like a shit test:
I'd say something like "Yeah, that actually works out pretty well, one of my friends has been asking to be set up - we'll double date!" or something to that effect.

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How old is this girl??? 15???

I think we would all agree here to "be yourself" but we are just here to ensure that "yourself" is not a total average frustrated chump. Being attractive, intelligent, quirky, etc and not knowing The Game means you are AFC. Understanding The Game is about a lot more than just getting laid. It is about knowing how women operate to escalate or change certain situations as needed. You can still be yourself while doing it.

Even if she is 15 girls are years ahead of guys at that age in the Love Game.

I'm starting to feel like this entire forum is in junior high. It's like dealing with kids who can't work up the courage to call Mary Sue for the sock hop on Friday night. You have to start somewhere though.

I guess I should be patient. Game in your 30's is entirely different than a post pubescent teen views it. Maybe a lot of it comes naturally to me, but a lot of the questions seem second nature.

I still say drop this girl like a brick.

I think Sixpounder has a good idea too (in addition to my idea, which is also brilliant)
Btw, guys, do MEN ever do "shit tests" like this?

Well traditionally I have been AFC but I don't think I have done shit tests.

hey ive kind of just experienced this too, and ive asked if she realises what i mean and why she wants to bring a friend, and she said she wants a friend to come so she can go home with her and ride on the same bus as her, because she doesnt want to go home by herself. what does this mean? is she telling the truth, or does she just not want to hurt my feelings :/

now hang on just a second.

I've had the same experience as this, not the movies though but hanging out with a girl.. I think it could also be a little shit test. Think about it, the girl wants to know how you handle different situations, what better situation than bring a friend to see how you will react and also to see if her friend likes you??

I say go to the movies with them, Have a great time and don't think of it as a date! Just have in the back of your mind that you really want to see a movie and they are just accompanied you. A tip also: Be dominate! pick the movie, pick what time you see it and choose to go for a walk after it. Do NOT go in to the cinemas and says ummm well i donno what do you wanna see. Pick a movie and go with it.. also don't stick around too long after the walk. Say your busy this afternoon or night (whenever you see it) and leave. This will make her think okay he acutally has a life besides me.

Goodluck!

A 20 year old girl recently did it to me. The day before the "date" she sent me a text saying: Is it ok if I bring my good friend? She's good, she's smart and she won't bother us
It wasn't a movie, but a concert and a lot of my friends were going so it wasn't a big deal, but I was planning on isolating her and just bounce somewhere alone, which now couldn't happen. So I was wondering what did just happen and I was saying this to a good female friend of mine. I told her I'm definitely friend-zoned, otherwise she wouldn't bring her friend. And then my female friend told me: Don't you remember how it was being 20? If you guys got it on, her friend would vanish in a second. Some other female friends confirmed this. Now when I think about that night, there was a lot of KINO, IOIs and the stupid giggling and whispering between the two of them while looking at me. Felt like I was in high school. And the friend actually found somebody else to talk to as soon as I engaged my target. So yeah, I guess some young girls just do it like that, but a movie is not the same situation. I have another "date" with this girl, it was actually her idea and I made sure she knew I wanted to be alone with her. It sucks to be in this situation though. Maybe it would be better to find an excuse not to come and tell her you'll make it up to her, then organize a real date with just the two of you?

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I have bursts of being a lady, but it doesn't last long.

Do'nt listen to the doom-gloomers -

If still relevant GO WITH THEM BOTH AND HAVE FUCKING FUN! be the fun guy that girls want to be with. Other girls will notice this and want to be around you too. Will you have some LJBF's?? Definitely and these girls ARE needed. Demonstrate high value and non-chalance by gaming them both.

Ther is a 5% chance she is planning a threesome for later, to err on the side of caution go on any date when a female friend is invited along and flirt with them both.