Not sure I should be askin this here...but here it goes

tonight at a club I met a woman and her husband. They didn't seem to be very close. They even sat a moderate distance apart. They didn't stand together, touch much at all or anything... Anyway I got to know the group. Joked and laughed as I talked with she and her husband and the group.

She's pretty flirty with me the whole time and not too flirty with him but I just thought, oh well. Maybe that's how they are..

Well he decides to leave the club early without her. They kiss on the cheek and then he walks out.. that was it. the last we saw of him.

Later she tells me that they've been married ten years and there's been some slip ups. She tells me he actually slept with the girl that was with the group when I met them all. I was shocked cause I just met that girl.. then she tells me that she slept with her doctor once while they were married too... So I asked who the first was to slip up and I got mixed answers. Apparently he slept with her friend several times though.. and she's still friends with her friend.. but she'd also told me she only met that friend like a few months ago..

The wierd part is I talked to that dude alone for a while and he said he hardly new that girl (the one his wife had told me he slept with). He said he could hardly remember her name..

So we walk out the club at 2:am tonight after making out a ton in the corner. she calls me on her way home and says she wants to finish what we started (have sex) while he is at work later in the week.

I'm not sure what to think of all this.. I wanna bone her.. but any thoughts???

DONT DO IT!

BEEN THERE (NOT) DONE THAT.

Keep your integrity. Keep her as a friend and exploit her friends.

what do you mean exploit her friends? and what do you mean keep integrity..
Kinda nervous I'm even askin.. but what the hell

I've lost my religion the past five years. I find myself in unfamiliar ground. I'm not sure what integrity is anymore.. but I'm workin on it.

If your not religions. Fine do what you please.

But i come from a christian background. And marriage is sacred. I have the opportunity to lay a an old fbuddy this weekend. But she is recently married.
I have the opportunity but I wont do it.

A pua/alpha (insert generic pua phrase here) will not lose his integrity by trying to get with a married woman.

Befriend her. If she is hot use her as social proof in a club. Failing that go to events where she invites her friends. Game her UN MARRIED friends

she is bored with her husband. Women also love sex

Don't sleep with married women.

(insert millions of good reasons why this statement is truth)

The end.

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Haha I laughed when I saw this. See my post about fiance I work with in this forum


Don't do it

Plus you never know what you are getting into.

She could lure you back, seductively lead you into the bedroom, erotically strip you naked, go to get "some lube" or something from the other room, deadbolt the door from the outside.

Next thing you know you hear a bell ring and the bisexual rape squad comes rushing out of the closet and has their way with you!

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what dr. house brings to medicine, i bring to everyday life (an extreme dose of cynicism), don't listen to the curmudgeon!

Strange how many of us will employ "boyfriend destroyers" to grab most girls, but become all preachy when the little bureaucratic wedlock hurdle comes into the equation.

However, personally I think you shouldn't take advantage of bored girls in any long term relationship just for short term sex, so I wouldn't do it if I were you. Unless you can be sure she isn't doing it to get back at her husband and is actually genuine.

I've fucked A LOT of married women, but all of them were while their husbands and my wife were there. It ain't cheating if you have permission from all parties LOL

Here's the question to ask yourself, how desparate for poontang are you and what hardships and what risks are you willing to take to get it??

Yes married women cheat and yes they sometimes like a little extra dick on the side, BUT it always comes at a price. What price are you willing to take??

Women aren't like men, men will cheat with some gal just because the gal is available and they think they will get away with it. A guy can fuck a chick and then zip up his pants and walk away and not give it another thought (ie the husband that supposedly didn't remember the gals name)

But women aren't like that, they always have a plan and a scheme. There is a reason she is hitting on you. And it is doubtfull that that reason is because you are so much better looking, richer and more powerfull than her husband.

She could just be a skanky slut. She could just be doing to get revenge on her husband. It's possible they have an open marriage and they fuck whoever they want. There is a good chance she just wanted a little extra fun and excitement and now that the booze and the rush has worn off, she has no intention of following through with it.

The thing you have to ask yourself is how much risk are you willing to take just to fuck some chick that is a potential powder keg of drama? Are you willing to risk just being used by her for a little extra thrill and then ditched when she finds her next boytoy (which if she is that hardcore the next boytoy will be next week) Are you willing to have her husband kick in your front door to kick your ass? Are you willing to be labeled a homewrecker and adulterer by the rest of the community when everyone finds out? Are you willing to have her hate you and slander your name when the shit hits the fan? (oh yeah, dont think when her husband finds out that she is going to admit that she instigated it. Oh no, she is going to say that you got her drunk and practically raped her) Are you willing to have decent single women blow you off because you are a homewrecker?

Basically it's about risk vs benifit. Yes people use boyfriend destroyers but a marriage is completely different on a fundamental basis. With a marriage you have a TON more investment and a ton more to lose. IF you are just dating some chick and some guy muscles in and bangs her, the only thing that is hurt is your feelings and your pride. If you have a mortgage and car payments and kids to feed and joint bank accounts and joint credit ratings and you are looking at that being torn apart by some horny douchebag you are going to react a million times more violently and the legal and financial stakes are going to be a million times higher.

Does that piece of poontang look so hot now???

ya those are a lot of really good points. thanks!

here's the issues that have made this somewhat tricky at all.

If she was in what seemed to be a normal happy marriage I'd never even consider it..
However..

-at the club she flirted with me right by him so deliberately and he honestly didn't eve seem to care at all to the point that the whole time I was questioning whether or not they were actually married. I was honestly questioning. I was trying to figure out if she had told me they were married when it could have simply been a lie that she tells guys at clubs.. they just didn't seem married. It didn't even feel like they knew each other that well. almost more as distant friends. it was so odd.

-than he leaves early not even caring that she's into me. and they barely kiss on the cheek. again seemed a little odd. they weren't even sitting side by side.

-later that night she tells me that he cheated on her both with her good friend there, several times. also later tells me that he also cheated on her with a prostitute in thailand.

-she tells me she's cheated on him before with her pharmicist..

So I find myself asking.. well hell, if these 2 are about to get a divorce.. OR
simply cheat on one other all the time, why shouldn't I have a good night, if she's gonna just find another thrill eventually and he will too?.. would it matter..

BUT if she calls me to set up a date to meet which she may, I'm almost thinking of putting her on the spot to try and figure out what's really going on here..

it would be good if I had some solid clarifying questions to ask her.. ? I don't want to be a tool to hurt her husband.. I don't want to make things worse for him or her.

This woman and I clicked personality wise, there was some fun social chemistry I'll admit (SHE ACTUALLY HAD NOTHING TO DRINK AT THE CLUB BTW) so she wasn't drunk

- I'm just not sure I've got the full picture here
- so I might just wait to here from her and try to clarify

HUH????? What more of the picture do you need to see here??? Are you serious? How much more of this situation to do you need to see before you form an opinion on it?

You go digging into this and you are going to find layer after laying of ugliness and dysfunction. What aren't you seeing now???

Do you think this gal is wanting to upgrade to you?? Do you think she is your sole mate and she just needs to get away from her cheating husband and you are going to rescue her and you are going to ride off into the sunset together as a perfect happy couple??????????????????????

If you want to some opportunistic douche that pounds married women whenever they get the chance because you are so desparately horny and amoral that all that matters is that you dump a load in some warm wet pussy then so be it if that's the kind of guy you want to be.

But don't be some spineless, pathetic AFC that is so desparate for female attention that you get used by some skanky cheater whore.

Don't you have any nice single chicks in an hours drive that you can meet and get to know??

Oh my god. Where do you get off??! Did you even read my post...

This is new to me asshole. i told you in the post it seemed like they might not even be married. It's an odd situation or so it seems. and no it's not all about nice sweet girls to me. Is that what it is to you?? Are you Mormon or something?? no I don't have girls hitting on me all the time.. so it's not that easy

So call me spineless all you want and I'll return the favor.
I'm obviously sincere. I obviously care or I wouldn't have posted here, I just would have banged her that night already. If a guy doesn't care he doesn't ask for advice..

but I'm come here sincere. I've appreciated all comments but once you start freaking out like that it makes me question whether or not you can even see what I'm struggling with. sorry man

I can see what you are struggling with and I am trying to open your eyes so you can see too.

You are struggling because some woman batted her eyes in your direction and rubbed against you and made you feel like a big strong powerfull stud. She gave you some sappy story on how her husband is a cheater and doesn't treat her right and now you feel like you are going to be her saviour and she is going to be all indebted to you and think you are her knight in shining armor.

You are flattered that you got some sexual attention from a woman and in a way it even makes you feel more studdly and powerfull because she is committed to some other guy but yet she is showering you with attention so makes you feel even better.

Yeah, I get that. I was in your position several times in my youth so I get it.

The problem is she is a skank. She is damage goods. She's a female douchebag. She's a cheating whore. Is that what you want????

Seriously, is that what you want? Is that where you want your heart to go?

You can be pissed at me but I am the one you wrote to when you posted this thread. You are 100% correct, if you were a douchebag and the kind of guy that sinks his dick into any pussy that has spread legs you would have boned her in the bathroom of the bar that night and would not have written here looking for insight.

You wrote this thread because you wanted to hear me tell it to you straight up. And now I am.

Yes, you can probably fuck this chick at some point, but is she where you are wanting to be investing your time and energies?

IMHO I do not think PUA is about being able to fuck every single woman that you can. I don't think it is about degrading your own morals and values so that you fuck as many women as possible so you can boost your score card up as high as possible.

I think PUA is about having the skills and knowledge so that you can attract and engage the kind of women that YOU want way deep down at your core level. It's not about oppornistically fucking every woman that will have you (Mystery himself called them a "FOOLS-MATE" and they were not an example of skill or ability but rather fuck people cause they are so skanky)

You came to this site to learn skills and knowledge and to better your ability with women. Is this gal where you want to apply your skills and knowledge and is this the gal you want to invest your time and energy?

Or deep down would you rather find a nice, respectable, single gal that will honor and value you and not have all the baggage and seediness? Do you want a girl that you will be proud to bring around your buddies and family or do you want to spend your time lurking in the shadows and hiding yourself because you putting it to a skank?

And no I am not a Morman. I haven't been to a church service since bible school when I was 7. I am not religious bible beater. I am an old recovered AFC that thinks men should stand tall and proud and pursue the quality women that they deserve and should not be used and manipulated by nasty skanks because they are feeling lonely and haven't found the right girl yet.