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GringoZ's journey towards becoming a PUA

What up boys!

It’s time for me to document my journey towards becoming a PUA.

Before anything, I’ve been following a few journal entries, and I can say AFC Daniel’s journey really motivated me to really get this part of my life handled. Keep up the good work dude! You're really getting a lot of people motivated about this stuff.
Anyways, I decided to make a journal specifically to share my game experience to other members of this forum as well as to get massive feedback from you guys!

Alright!

Background

I'm 23 years old Brazilian guy, born in France and now lives in Canada. Went I first moved here, my english was at a really basic level and to attain proficiency in the language took me about 1 year. So as you can imagine, I didn't really go sarging during that year...I was, and am pretty self conscious about my english.
the following year I met a French girl who I ended up getting engaged with, after 1 year of dating. 1 year later we broke up and I decided to focus on school (another 6 month without sarging)..since I was pretty devastated. I'm summarizing this story...a lot of shit happened while on this relationship

After getting over this brake up, I decided to go out sarging with some friends and do some online dating. From this point, my game improved a lot, since I wasn't bad at all with women back in Brazil. Although I had never heard of the PU community. I still managed to get dates on my own.

Learning about PU

The first time I actually heard about the PU community was 2 months ago when I was on vacation in Brazil. My friend is a pretty good PUA and some of the materials he advised me to read consisted of Double your Dating by David Deangelo, and some of Gambler video.
Wow...after reading that book and watching PUA videos, I totally changed my game and my success with night game in Brazil was pretty good.

Now I'm back to Canada and I really want to step it up and get dates and become successful with really attractive women. Speaking portuguese, french, english and italian (basic) really helps me with my game thought.

By the way, I'm reading Attraction isn't a choice right now and studying the material on this forum.

My goals

- Kill AA. I can be pretty nervous when approaching an attractive woman outside of a club or bar.

- Be able to approach any women at night/daytime, and successfully create attraction, sexual tension, comfort and all those emotions. I basically want to be able to get any women I chose to engage a conversation with.

- Become a sociable, dominant, attractive, funny person. I really think this PU community will not only help me with women, but also with my professional and personal life in general because some of the material out there really motivates you to become a positive person who enjoys life to a maximum.

- Become leaner. Right now I'm 6 ft and I weight 200 lbs. I'm pretty fit but I got this extra body fat. This will make me more confident for some reason, and I won't need to buy new clothes hahaha seriously some t-shirts aren't gonna be fitting my body soon.

- Really improve my daygame. My first attempt on daygame was today actually! so I'll be posting my experience. There's nothing better than approach a good looking woman you see walking in the mall right ?? I just hate the feeling of seeing a hot woman and think to myself..."damn she's hot! I wish I could talk to her"...I'll be getting in action from now on!

Mindsets that I have to adopt

- Women find me attractive
- I don't care about rejection
- I don't care about the outcome. There's a lot of women out there.
- I can if I believe I can
- I'm not needy

Advice

What kind of book should I be reading right now ? I'm a beginner at this but know the basics. Anything good on daygame ? Books, videos ? Thanks!


That's pretty much it for now. I'll be updating my journal everytime I go sarging. I have actually met an aspiring PUA from this forum and we'll start practicing day/nightgame and provide each other with some awesome feedback.

Feel free to comment on anything guys...I'm spending my time writing this specifically to get advice from experienced people and to share my journey with you all!



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Day 1 - First time day game ever


Getting started!

Last night, I started watching some videos on daygaming. Jack Coxwell has really interesting videos on street and mall approach. Watching his videos really made me realize that right now, in order to Kill AA. Since I never approached at daytime, I should start pretty much from scratch, which means that I should focus on approaching and not worry about the outcome.
A lot of the time I won't approach a girl because I think too much about what I'm going to say later - "oh, what am I going to say if she says this and that" "what if she rejects me" - that's totally wuss behavior

What I have to do is to get used to being rejected and to talk to random people...then, I will apply all those techniques I've been learning.

to sum up:

1 - Get confortable approaching and engaging conversations with women. F*ck rejection and the outcome
2 - slowly apply C&F, teasing, attraction and confort

At the Mall - Morning

First of all, I went to the mall this morning to get a haircut. Had a really good conversation with the hair stylist about brazil vs shitty weather (Edmonton) haha
As I was going to leave the mall, I saw a pretty cute HB8 all alone at a shoe store.
So I got in and engaged a conversation...i can't really remember everything but it was something like this.

HB8: Hi
ME: Hey, how's it going ?
HB8: good!
ME: Are you having fun ?? Cause you look so bored all alone here.
HB8: yeah I know the store is so empty. How's the mall ? empty too ?
ME: Hell yea. i think the weather scared everybody off
HB8: blablabla
ME: blablabla

Then I talked about how I like the shoes in this store and mentioned that I bought some from the same store at another mall...
blablabla blablabla
tried to DHV a bit by telling I got a nice new job doing architecture so that's why I was looking for nice Italian shoes since the attire is business casual.
When I left, she said I should come to her store next time I buy shoes!
I just laughed and said "yea, maybe you'll see me around"

At the Mall - Afternoon

I met up with a friend from this forum to do some cold approaches.
We talked about pick up lines and strategies first and then sarged for a bit.
I gotta say, the mall was pretty empty and it was hard to find attractive women.
My friend approached someone and then we went to the sears to check it out and I see a HB9 behind the counter with a gorgeous smile, she was selling some kitchen stuff.
We make eye contact. I should have smiled though.
I turn around and tell my friend am going to approach her.
I gotta say, the anxiety built up since I was about to approach that HB9.

I approach her and ask her what she is selling. I act all interested and then after a few sentences I say. ( I was kind of nervous though)

I say: "Look, I'm not really interested in this product. I actually came here to talk to you to ask you one simple question"
HB9: (smiling) what is it ?
me: (smiling) how come you have such a beautiful smile ?
HB9: (she gives me a big smile) thank you! I don't really know how to answer that question ahah

I told her when someone finds a person attractive or fun, that person should talk to him/her. i said I like meeting new people blablabla - she agreed.

After 5 min converstation I knew I had to eject for some reason because I felt like I was going to run out of material...I did something stupid because I wasn't very relaxed. I introduced myself, she told me her name and I told her I ahd to leave...
Damn it! I wasn't comfortable number closing her so i ejected - what happened to the mindset F*ck the outcome and rejection ??? I totally forgot about this :x

When you are new at something I guess you forget things. Next time I HAVE to remember that it doesn't matter if she rejects me.

my friend did one more approach and I went home.

What I did wrong

- I forgot about the mindsets I should be adopting
- I talked too fast because I was a bit nervous
- I forgot to number close her (arrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh)
- I didnt belive in myself

What I did right and what I learned from this

- I approached 2 sets and wasn't as nervous as I thought
- I maintained eye contact
- i had good body language, according to my friend who actually managed to record part of the conversation
- I made her laugh
- I was sociable


Conclusion

Daygame is really fun! I feel that I will be able to get a lot of dates from it once my game improves. Even though I made several mistakes, I think that I succeeded tonight. my AA wasn't that bad and I had a nice convo with a HB9.

Gotta try harder tomorrow though!

Any advice on this ?

GringoZ


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Hi Gringo

Very nice first day! It looks like you already have natural skills. You don't have a really bad AA. Soon enough, the girls will beg you to take their number ;)
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tried to DHV a bit by telling I got a nice new job doing architecture so that's why I was looking for nice Italian shoes since the attire is business casual.
I don't know much about theory, but this sounds more like trying hard than DHV.

Do you have some links to Jack Coxwell's videos? (I only found a bootcamp video on youtube)

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Very nice first day! It looks like you already have natural skills. You don't have a really bad AA. Soon enough, the girls will beg you to take their number
Thanks Znak! Hope you're right haha. It will take a lot of practice tho till i get to the point where I can approach anyone without hesitating.
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I don't know much about theory, but this sounds more like trying hard than DHV.
I gotta work on DHV stories lol

Here's Jack Coxwell website man. It's got some pretty good videos of him sarging at the mall and some other interview which really motivated me.

http://www.mypuajourney.com/

This ohter PUA Jeremy Soul has really good direct game so take a look. If you know more videos of him, let me know!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njDfgsTqUFE

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Day 2 - 9 approaches in 10 minutes!

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Goals

1. Get a rid of AA
2. Adopt the "i dont give a shit" mindset
3. Have fun

At the mall

I'm gonna say I failed on having fun and on adoping the i dont give a shit mindset today.

Again, I met up with a friend today to practice some day gaming. For some reason today my AA was massive! So my wingman opened a two set and I decided I had to open someone too at H&M. I see this beautiful HB9 all alone shopping at the store but as I hesitated, the AA built-up even more. It was too late. Damn it!

We went straight to another store and I saw this cute HB9...She was really fashionable. So I didnt think twice and I opened. I was kinda nervous yes.

Me: Hi How's it going ?
her: I'm ok I guess (she looked at me weird - next time ill say "excuse me" instead of "hey how's it going" - like Im in a bar! ridiculous)
Me: I just need a quick female opinion if that's fine (totally AFC "if that's fine ?" WTF)
Me: Do you think V-neck tshirts look good on guys ? I'm shopping here and I'm contemplating on whether I get a v-neck or a regular one.
her: Sorry, I have no sense of style
Me: you look pretty fashionable to me though
her: I'm actually on lunch break right now so...(she was polite not to say fuck off!)
Me: No problem, have a great day.

I ejected...I didn't hurt at all..If I was more experienced at daygame I would have totally destroyed that bitch shield..I want to love being rejected actually, but I'm not very used to it yet. Whatever...NEXT !

I approached a HB6.5 working at the store with the same opener...
she was reallyyyyy shy and she didn't like V-neck according to her - I was wearing a v-neck shirt. So she took me to the t-shirt section, we talked for a bit and since I wasn't attracted to her I just said "well, thanks for your help!" and she left.

From this time I felt ridiculous because I hadn't really succeeded any approach but that's fine. My objective for now is not to practice my game, it is to get comfortable talking to random people with a pick up mindset. At least I approached them eventhough I didn't do well.

10 approaches in 10 minutes!

Me and my wing left the store and then he proposes something crazy to me! he was like "yo man, we should totally do 10 approaches in 10 minutes!"
for some reason, I got really nervous about the idea but when he started approaching those people (women, men, or anything that moves haha) it seemed like fun. He did really good actually.
I was pumped and ready to go...
The time was so tight that I couldn't choose my targets though...

what do you do ? go!

1 - I asked some guy the time.
2 - I approached 2 older HB7 with the V-neck opener
3 - I opened a random mom and talked a bit about the store
4 - I went down the escalator and since there was some people blocking it, I jsut approached a grandma that was right beside me HAHA - I was like "don't you hate waiting at an escalator ??" and we exchanged a few sentences. I should have totally number closed her lol
5 - I went inside a store and open 2 HB9 about the v-neck opener. It went really well, they actually complimented me but I had to go. tic toc tic toc!
6 - I opened a guy and asked him the time.
7 - I opened a HB seller and say I really like the stuff they sell
8 - Again, I opened a lady asking her the time - I was really running late on time
9 - I was desperate here cause I had almost no time left so I approached 2 HB6 and asked them if they were to guess where I am from, where would it be ?? they guessed Germany....They got surprised and really liked when I said I'm brazilian. Turns out both of them spoke basic Portuguese so we exchanged a few words and I ejected.

Then I ran out of time.

Debriefing

Well, at the beginning ,in the mall, I really felt like shit. Nervous as hell. I clearly showed the cute HB9 that I was nervous so that's why she wasn't very receptive.
After the 10 approaches in 10 minutes drill though, I felt almost no AA whatsoever! I gotta tell you guys, It is a great drill. This challenge MAKES you talk to people, otherwise you just loose right ??? I failed, but 9 is close enough!
To sum up, I felt really good after the 10 minutes and I'll tell you what. From now on, I will always warm up with this 10 minute drill before I actually go talk to girls I want to pick up. that's right! It's a great warm up exercise.

What to improve on

- Speak slower when opening. take a deep breath and go for it. I gotta relax because otherwise I'll scare them if I talk too fast in a nervous way.
- DO NOT hesitate dude!
- Use my accent to my advantage. Be mysterious and make them wanna know where I come from - then DHV
- Again, don't care about the outcome
- Just relax and have fun.


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Thanks for the links GringoZ.
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10 approaches in 10 minutes!
This is the most productive thing I've read in the forum!


EDIT: here you go, you got me thinking
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What kind of book should I be reading right now ? I'm a beginner at this but know the basics. Anything good on daygame ? Books, videos ?
Don't read books on PU! Use PU books when you feel something is going wrong. Most of the time books are full of s**** written by nerds who are trying to complicate things because they want to sell you their product... Like not approaching from behind! why shouldn't you? Active disinterest??? Push&Pull?!!! I am more into Push&Push anyway ;)

The point in PU is not to hijack a female's brain to suck your cock... it's about becoming a better human being.

As for the vidz, it's very instructional. Here are my favorites:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLjk2dtYnqE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWBvdZa_Nno&feature=fvsr
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sByhtRHVaAo

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Don't read books on PU! Use PU books when you feel something is going wrong. Most of the time books are full of s**** written by nerds who are trying to complicate things because they want to sell you their product... Like not approaching from behind! why shouldn't you? Active disinterest??? Push&Pull?!!! I am more into Push&Push anyway
I understand, but so far I've read double your dating by D.Deangelo and I can tell you it was great to get me started at this PU. I would totally recommend reading that book man. I tried reading the game though, and I stopped, right away...

As for the videos....thanks! I'll try those techniques but if I go to jail, you're gonna have to bail me out! haha


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Relaxing

Today I haven't really gone sarging at all. I have to get my car fixed and it's so damn expensive to get the struts replaced. The big mall is a 30-40 minutes drive from my place so I'd be spending way too much money If I went sarging everyday. I've been getting estimates from stores today, reading some posts and material, and playing Dead Space 2 - this game is pure adrenaline. It makes me feel like I'm the main character trapped on that planet full of necromorphs hahaha.

How many times a week ?

As for the amount of sarging. At the stage I am right now, I am thinking on:

1. Daygame: Twice a week
2. Nighgame: every Friday and Saturday

If I keep doing this consistently every week. I am confident that my AA and my game will improve lots. Do you guys think that 4 times a week is decent for sarging, or should I push the boundaries ???

Dilemma

I am actually stuck in a dilemma. For a daygame starter, should I be focusing on one routine, ie: v-neck tshirt opinion opener, and work on it untill I really nail the opening and transition to the convo, or should I be trying all kinds of openers ?I can see myself learning from both ways, but maybe there's a better way to do it. Just like at the beginning of AFC Daniel's journey where he focused on the cookie store opener.

Inital goals

Again, just to restate my goals. I am working on destroying AA, so my main focus here should be:

1. Focus on opener
2. Speak slowly when opening/articulate well
3. Smile
4. Maintain eye contact
5. Eject smoothly
6. Do this as much as possible whenever I can to eventually get used and do it without hesitation.

Openers

A lot of these openers where taken from the material I've been reading, from friends and from myself. I'm just thinking of as many openers as possible for either day and nightgame, in case I run out of ideas when following the three second rules.

Nightgame:

1. Hey, I'm GringoZ do it Gambler style, in a sexual and sensual way with strong eye contact, after getting many IOI from the girl
2. I hate to ask you this question...but....are you shy ? Cause Ive been standing here for like 2 seconds and you haven’t even talked to me.
3. Hey ladies. I need a female opinion. Do these jeans make you wanna look at my ass ?? Cause I'm an assmodel and I got a photoshoot tomorrow. I don't wanna come of cheeky.
4. Hey, you ladies seem fun
5. I have to tell you, you have an incredible sense of style. I like the way your boots match your hair color and blablabla. You definitely got style, now I want to know if you're interesting on the inside.
6. (to a pretty HBbrunette)Say something in Italian such as: - Buonasera bella dona, come stai in questa bellissima notte ? she won't understand and will be like what ? oh, I wanted to see if you're Italian...so I spoke Italian to you.
- You definitely look Italian, has anyone told you that ?
- Take it as a compliment, Italian women are gorgeous....beauty is common though...there`s 3 things I look in women. blablabla I used this one in a club once and the HB was like ,Oh that was perfect, right after speaking italian
7. Not to be that guy that hits on you at the clubs...but yea...im gonna be that guy..I`m GringoZ
8. Are you guys super-shy or what? I’ve been here for ten minutes and you haven’t offered to buy me a drink or even said hello.

Daygame:

1. Opinion opener: Do you think V-neck tshirts look good on man ? (I'm fit so when they look at me wearing it, they'll usually say it looks good on man)
2. Hey, let me ask you a question. My friend and I were talking about something, and I think we need a female perspective, which language do you guys think is the most romantic. French or Italian ? This creates an interesting convo
3. If you guys were to guess were I'm from, what would you guys guess ?? I'm blond so people will never guess I'm brazilian, they'll say german or dutch. then I can neg them about sucking at guesses.
4. Excuse me. I was walking past you and I have to tell you. You have an incredible sense of style
5. Excuse me. I was walking past you and I had to stop and ask you a question. how come you have such a beautiful smile ?
6. At a women store. Hey guys, I need a female perspective here...Do you think.............this dress would look good on me ?? then I take the dress and show them on my bodyI never tried lol, but maybe this would make them laugh
7. Hey guys, daddy's home. lol don't try this

Let me know if I could improve some of these openers.

GringoZ


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Openers

A lot of these openers where taken from the material I've been reading, from friends and from myself. I'm just thinking of as many openers as possible for either day and nightgame, in case I run out of ideas when following the three second rules.
That's a lot of openers. Maybe you should focus on 2 or three that you really like?


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That's a lot of openers. Maybe you should focus on 2 or three that you really like?
I know haha. I'm gonna focus on 1,2. But sometimes you have you use other openers depending on the situation, so those will come in handy...if I remember them :shock:


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Day 3 - Improving night game

Today is my Brazilian friend's birthday and we're going clubbing. This will give me a chance to practice night game with this new mindset I have adopted. At the clubs, I don't really get AA and I'm feeling pretty pumped about this night!

Goals

1. Approach as many HB as possible.
2. Practice my dance game.
3. Practice Gambler's micro kino escalation
4. k-close or number close at least one HB
5. Have tons of fun!

At the club

Last night was crazyy! i was pretty buzzed though, so I didn't really give a shit about what I was doing. Anyways, once we got there, this HB8 DJ approached us, she was doing some promoting and once we said we're from Brazil, she hugged me, and we talked for like 5 minutes. We exchanged a few sentences in French and Spanish with my arm around her waist. When she left I realized I should have number closed her.damn!

My main focus here was to be sociable, so i approached bar tenders, guys, girls that I wasn't interested until I actually started doing some real approaches.

On the dance floor

The music was awesome and there was this HB10 dancer dancing on the stage..damn she was hot. So we dance for a bit and my friend teases me to approach these 3 women seating at a table behind us. I don't even think twice and I open them. One was a mom, and two HB8,one blonde and one brunette, were in their early 20s. I don't remember my opener but it went pretty good. we talked for like 10 min and turns out the mom was HB10 dancer's mom! the one on stage. They were watching her show so 5 min later HB10 dancer actually came down to our table and I got introduced. that was huge DHV...I was talking to the hottest girl in the club! Anyways, I talked a lot to the mom too just to win her approval because I was about to ask her daughter's cellphone. so I said to her daughter " hey your mom likes me haha, she's not gonna mind when you give me your number" turns out she was engaged so I ejected.

My friends and I danced a bit more and I opened another set just by walking up to the hottest girl of the group - HB8 - taking her hand, spinning her and pulling her against me. Then she said smiling "I like you but my husband is gonna be back soon" lol, then I said she should divorce him and marry me, she laughs, I eject. I just wanted to practice my dance game anyways.

I opened several sets just by taking girls’ hand and spinning them. This made me realize how easy it is to just open a set and dance with any girl you want. As long as you do it with confidence and just reach out with your hand. Nice! i get some AA when doing this sober though, so most of the time I usually talk to them rather than dancing.

Crazy HB7 kiss close

On the dance floor, there was this crazy HB7 girl dancing. She was so drunk! she smiles as she sees me, comes up to me, we dance for a bit and she kiss my lips and walk away. wtf ? nice. So I come up to her and say "you know, it's 10 dolars for each kiss"...she just laughs, hugs her girl-friend and start kissing her cheeks and they start dancing so I ejected. I had never been randomly kiss closed by a girl like this haha it really threw me off. I just wanted to enjoy the night anyways and go back to my friends.

Pole dancers

Going back from the washroom, I see 3 HB9 with mini skirts pole dancing. they were so hot! What do I do? I go there and start dancing in the bottom, cheering and flirting with one of them who made eye contact. then one of her other friends, HB8, opens me by dancing and after a little bit of grinding, I look at the pole dancer and she totally jumps on me, almost at my face! That was awesome. So I catch her hold her for a bit, kiss her nice and flat tummy, and then we exchange a few sentences until some goofballs come and cockblock me. I didn’t really know what to do there so I said bye to HB9 pole dancer and I ejected.

Back to the dance floor

This is when I was really enjoying the party. On the dance floor, guys would start conversations with me.I met and high fived a lot of people. Did a little bit more dancing with random girls, not necessarily all attractive women since I wanted to practice dance game. It was cool though, most girls were really receptive. I opened other sets with the v-neck tshirt opener. One thing that I noticed is when you approach a group of 2,3 girls, you put both your hands on their shoulders as you're saying hey. Make sure they see you walking towards them though. Once you put your hands on their shoulder, they’ll automatically lean in to hear what you have to say. They lean in and you don’t. nice.

Debriefing

Overall, the night was pretty awesome. I was the social and friendly guy who talked to everyone on the dance floor. I approached a lot of girls - at least 10 sets. And by focusing on my goals, I was able to achieve pretty much all of them. Does being kiss closed count though ? lol. The most important, I had fun approaching womenand practicing dance game. However, I was buzzed and I know I wouldn't have had such a nice night if I was sober. I'm working on being more social when sober though.

What I did right

1. I got people to approach me
2. I didn't hesitate once
3. I was able to pretty much choose any HB to dance with, just with a strong body language
4. I approached tons of people
5. I got kiss closed
6. I had so much fun

What to improve on

1. Next time, remember to close them. I focused too much on opening sets and forgot about getting numbers.
2. Try to deal better with cockblockers. Any advice on this ??

GringoZ out.


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Sounds like a really great night! Too bad that the hotties were married/engaged, but still, your game is already quite good (especially if a girl comes to kiss close you!!)

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Sounds like a really great night! Too bad that the hotties were married/engaged, but still, your game is already quite good (especially if a girl comes to kiss close you!!)
Not all of them were. But yea, and it's not like they were lying cause I saw that HB's husband later on and the other one had an engagement ring.
What's crazy is that a while ago, when I would go sarging buzzed. I would still hesitate when approaching but now since I've been training daygame, and nightgame sober, when I actually do drink at the clubs, I can approach anyone with no hesitation whatsoever. This is day 3 and I already feel the difference.


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Day 4 - Not motivated enough


My initial plans today was to go sarge at the mall with my wing, but since the time I woke up, I had this bad energy. I was feeeling pretty unmotivated and depressed, and I think it was because I kept avoiding all sort of things - as 60 years challenge would say. My inner voice kept telling, don't do this, don't do that, people are gonna look at you if you do that. Unfortunately I followed my inner voice. Then, my wing text me to know if we're going to the mall and my answer is something like "i'm pretty unmotivated dude, let's do it this weekend, not today". Anyways, he tells me he's going with or without me.
That made me think. Wow what am I doing, what about my goals in becoming more social, seductive and attractive to women. Whatever, I wasn't in the mood to go sarging due the all the things I had avoided that day, but I went anyways to the mall to get some practice. Damn you inner voice!

Goals

1. I had no goals...................

At the Mall

My wing and I started off the day doing the 10 approaches in 10 minutes drill just to get warmed up. wow. The mall was like a recess at that time. Most girls were under 18...some of them seemed to be 14. So It was hard to approach 10 sets in 10 minutes since I don't want to be seen as a creep who talks to 12 yo girls at the mall LOL. When 10 minutes hit, I had approached 8 sets. Failed again. The approaches weren't bad though...I had no AA whatsoever, except when I approached this HB9 chick that looked real bitchy, and my inner voice was telling me not to go for it, but I approached her anyways. Turns out she was a cool girl...to bad I was running out of time!

So my wing and I meet after the 10 minute drill. We debrief and slack off for like 1 hour without doing a single approach. One thing I noticed is that we were making too many excuses.."oh she's too old", "she's with her mom", "she's too single", "let me finish my bubble tea first" lol. I'm glad I've been reading some of 60 years challenge material because he says that we should do the complete opposite of what our inner voice tells us and stop making excuses. Another thing, he says that our inner voice is way off. If you want to approach a solid 10, your inner voice will tell you that she's a bitch and she'll tell you to go away, but then when you open, she turns out to be a nice girl. Our inner voice is messed up and way off. indeed.

After a while I approach a 2-set HB7 asking If I look polish or dutch cause all my friends say so. They agree and don't think I look Brazilian. For some reason they seemed a bit intimidated...maybe because they're not used to talk to strangers at the mall ?? I was pretty confident and had no AA. Then I eject. and go to ZARA to buy some dress pants...had a nice convo with the cashier but I wasn't interested in getting her cellphone.

My wing disappears after a while so I'm waiting for him and then one of those saleswomen (those who approaches people and tries to sell those lotion in their kiosks) approaches me. Normally I'd be like - No thanks, and I would eject. But this time I wanted to see where this goes, since she was an HB8. She comes to me asking where I'm from...and she takes my hand and look at it. so I say "Are you trying to seduce me by hand reading me ? I'm from brazil btw" she throws a friendly laughter and says she think "portugues" is a really attractive language. When she said "portugues" with that accent...that made me want her. Her accent was so sexy. So we talk for like 20 minutes, she shows me her products (of course she wants to sell) and belive me or not, I was looking for a product for my skin since I've been getting some random acne lately - I'm pretty unhappy with it right now. She was kinoing me a lot. me too. After a while I asked her what she's doing tomorrow and she said it's her birthday so I give her a hug and number close her. Anyways, she said she would txt me to meet her up at Hudsons tomorrow for her birthday.

What I did wrong.

- Lack of focus. I've got to focus on what I want
- Too picky and making up excuses
- Didn't approach enough women

For next time

- I need to set up goals
- Focus is the key
- Slow down when I speak and improve maintaining eye contact
- Don't hesitate
- No more excuses


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Day 4 - Worst night ever

Last night was really weird and confusing. My wing, Truebliss, and I were really pumped up about going clubbing and trying new techniques in the field last night. When we got there, though, it is a totally different story. I don't know if this happens to every aspiring PUA, or if this is a phase that everyone goes through. But my mind was pretty messed up when I got to the club. It's like my mind was somewhere else and I had no game whatsoever. Again, I was really picky and was worrying way too much on what I'm gonna say after the opener. And when I actually would open a set, I wouldn't keep up the conversation for long. It's like all the material, styles, and techniques that I've learned so far start going through my head as I open sets and confuse the hell out of me - I was confused as hell. Didn't know what to do. I felt like an idiot walking and making loops around the bar screening for targets. People could clearly see I was looking for targets. Tried going to the dance floor but it was so packed; thus, there was no way I'd be able to spin a girl around. I was slow as hell...I got a lot of EC, didn't follow the 3 seconds rule, then walked away.
hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm what's going on here ? I think to my self.....You know, I had no AA, and wasn't afraid of rejection....but for some reason the motivation just wasn't there.....I just didn't feel like opening sets.

I did open 4 sets that went nowhere tho......


1. I asked a HB8.5 if I look polish because my friends said so. Then she tried guessing where I'm from. Got suprised when I said im brazilian....we talked for a couple of minutes and it didnt' go nowhere. I ejected.

2. I open a set of 3HB by taking their picture, then I talk with one of them for a bit. Wanted to say that they looked intersting and wanted to meet them, but didn't. I said - I gotta go back to my friend instead.

3. I approach an HB10 asking her to reject me. I felt like I needed a bad rejection to cure me maybe ? and she said "i don't get it" "why?" I kept insisting "come on be mean! say somehting mean" but she didn't. So we talk in French for a bit, have a pretty nice convo. But it really felt like I was going nowhere since I asked her to reject me = DLV. She was the prettiest girl I saw in the party. I eject.

4. I'm walking around the floor dance on my own, and this HB7.5 makes EC...i try to pull a 60yo and lock EC for like 5 seconds...she couldn't take the tension and looked down. I don't hesitate and go talk to her. Introduce my self and say she looked interesting and wanted to meet her. I could see she was into me. Actually she was kinda nervous that I was being direct because she was smiling and giggling a lot.
Anyways, I don;t remember what happened but I end up ejecting as she gives me "why are you leaving look". WTF ? wow stupid move.

Debriefing

After this, my wing and I just left the place. that was such a ridiculous night. I'm actually pretty pissed off but I have to see this as a learning experience. I still don't know what happened though. Maybe the fact that I'm studying a lot of materials is messing up my inner game ??? I usually do a lot better in nightgames. alot. But maybe I've been reading too many things and getting a few styles mixed which is confusing my head. Truebliss actually felt the same way. Maybe we were too pumped up about this night. We expected too much and it turned out to be an awful night. BTW, I was completly sober...not even 1 beer. what I think is...I should try to focus on the mid-game now. I'm opening fine. But what after ? I usually manage to get a good convo out of the set but I think I should start focusing hardcore on mid-game. Does any of you guys have good material or advice on mid game ?

Tonight

Truebliss and I will go out again tonight but this time, we have set challenges just like the keys to the vip...I think this will really make us push the boundaries and try hard...way harder than yesterday. then, we'll see what we get from these challenges.

Questions:

Is this an inner game crisis ?
What should I do to avoid this again ?
Should I focus on one style rather than reading several styles. Right know I'm trying to mix 60yo with MM ?
Should I make up a routine and focus on it ?


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