Something has changed in me. It's subtle.. Yet I feel a distinct level of difference from a few months ago. I'm not sure when it happened, however it brings with it a feeling of calm/content with a touch of contempt for woman (I now keep looking at them like they're soo damn dumb). I just don't really care anymore.. With this feels almost like my motivation towards my goals, the reasons for why I do what I do are becoming less important.

Lately I've had strong thoughts of.. Meh, fuck it.. I just cant be bothered any more, I like to chat up, chase, pull, make out.. but the sex part seems so unimportant and almost not at all what I want.. to top it off my sleep patterns are being affected in a negative way.

My hunger (for sex) has reduced.. If I've learned anything, this is one of those moments where you usually begin to fall back into a comfort zone and weeks from now you look back and go, ahhh yeah that's what I used to do... dunno why I stopped.. well it was good while it lasted. But I do not want this to happen? I'm really just talking about Friday/Saturday night sex after being at a club... haha, it really has little value to me on a fri/sat night.. The process of drunk sex or sober/drunk never yields good results, I walk home in the morning, and the risks are there, I never seem to really be with the one I really want so pursuing more than a 1 nighter is not an attractive option.

Never thought i'd actually (although I claimed to be this way) be someone who sees very little value in attaining sex on a sat night.. more so IF DRINKING!...

I guess this on a personal level is a good thing. I am no longer seeking value from multiple partners I just don't care anymore. I no longer need it. But this mentality reduces my want to chase. Maybe it's due to my lack of exposure or solid results? ( Results are there.. constant make outs, offers, good solid attraction.. But I just am like.. Naa Not you.. ).. But then again I've not gone home with someone in a while.

I guess.. 6 more months here I will commit to this. (lead up to my move to the u.K) this'll give me a good opportunity to chat up woman with completely with no outcome dependence. - I really don't wanna go home with them anyway? or am I just kidding myself because it seems to hard?


Anyone got any thoughts? or had a similar experience?

I feel very similar recently. A few weeks ago I was so motivated to improve my game and to approach girls. But this past week I havn't been.

All I can think is that I have been a bit ill recently and this has effected my energy levels a bit and also and also makes it harder to concentrate on university work. This in turn is making me much more stressed out which in turn makes it harder for me to sleep even tho I'm tired. I think basically I am not thinking about girls as much because I have other things on my mind which I am worried about, and also being ill and not getting good sleep is making me tired which lowers my motivation to approach girls.

On top of that, to ease the stress I have started beating the meat more again (I limited myself to 1 or 2 times per week before) which will obviously lower motivation with girls, and I am not going to the gym, which always puts me in a good positive sociable mood and makes me hornier (testosterone and blood flow).

I decided today to get up early tomorrow to sort my sleeping pattern out and stop going to bed and walking up late, go to the gym (although not going to force myself too hard cos still think my body its tired cos is still ill), stop using masturbation as stress relief and start limiting myself again, and to
Use those extra hours that I'm not in bed to get university work done which should lower my stress.

Perhaps u are stressed about something? Not sleeping well? masturbating more often? not exercising as much?

yeah, I suppose i've had a lot on my mind lately.. I'm moving overseas in August.. big step, financially leaving my career and shiit. As for the Gym, it's a similar story.. losing my drive.. However I still get my ass there 5 days a week..

Also I wondered if beating it was perhaps creating some of the problem.. I mean i'm at it twice as much now than I was ... Perhaps I'll try going without for a few days.. see what that does for me..

Sucks I've got a "drinks" date with a HB8 tomorrow night and I really have no motivation for it.


Cheers for the reply man

It sounds like you could be having similar problems to me then.

Just try really hard to make sure your sleeping well and going to bed and getting up early.

Also to take time out to work out exactly what's stressing you out and deal with it then and there rather than just put it to the back of your mind. If your worried about moving to the UK and leaving your job then talk to people about why its bothering you, and put in effort to make sure that everything will be fine when you get to the UK (ie. if you havnt already, see if you can sort out a job for when you get here, place to live, find out what hobbies you could take up over here and talk to people online that do similar things and live in the city your going to so you can have people to meet up with straight away).

If theres stuff you cant sort out then take time out to de-stress and not think about stuff. If your stressed or worried about something else then you're not gonna be motivated for girls because stress is your minds way of telling you that there is something more important in your life that you need to sort out first.

And a lot of people dont think masturbation has any effect at all on game or motivation, but it does for me and I think it's totally logical that it would. The longer you abstain (up to 7 days...after that the effects start to reverse) the higher your testosterone gets and the hornier you will be, and so the more motivated you will be with girls. Beating the meat every day really makes me not care about girls that much...i still like looking at them but I just dont have the drive to go after them and approach.