Hi, forum!

Im quite new, but I've been lurking before posting, so I know something. I hope to learn to game better by posting experiences and doing more reading. Anyway, I'm quite raw in this. I had a 5 year relationship, but other than that I don't have many sexual experiences or chance to pick-up women. I kinda just took the first train on the station. Now I'm single and trying to manage..


STORY 1

Today I was in a shopping mall doing grocery shopping. After reading about PUA I'm always trying to approach pretty girls, well also not pretty ones for practice. This time I went to a bookstore and saw a not that pretty young girl searching for a book. I went next to her and asked if she knew any other books by this one female author (I was sure she knew the answer). Then we she did, I asked if she knew what the book was about. She kinda explained, but she seemed shy and kinda avoided eye contact. She had pimples in her face and I was not even attracted. I WANTED TO CREATE ATTRACTION HOWEVER. After this I kinda stumbled and started rambling something about books. For some reason I couldn't change the topic or be calm. I kept touching my earphones on my chest. Coudn't even keep eye contact. After a while I kinda faded.
It was disappointing, but it's okay, I'm still learning and I'm gonna fail as many times as needed.

STORY 2

Later that night I went out by myself. Never did this in my life, but I decided I need to go out as much as possible. It was a really slow night at a bar/club. Music was super loud. I spend most of the time clicking my phone and drinking. Just didn't have it to approach anyone in the tables and there were too many guys there also. I didn't feel comftorable at all. At one point I went to approach a 3set. It turned out they didn't speak my native language, so I had to talk english (I have fluent english). 1 of them was pretty and two not much. There were two couches with table seperating them and I sat next to the pretty girl. I greeted the two others but after that forgot them cuz you couldn't talk to them because the music was too loud.
I started to to talk with the German pretty girl (HB8 in my books). I started talking about my country and Germany and the differences. I tried to keep good posture and smiling and talking loudly enough. However my voice was a bit lacking sometimes, but I'll work on that. I kept talking all the time and I was definately leading the conversation, but I was just going on and on. I was afraid of the silence. Also I kept asking her too many questions. Still I think the beginning went okay, since she started to talk about her interests, which was cool. I related and said I like them too and such. I could have listened to her better, but I was thinking constantly what to say next and trying to remain enthusiastic about the convo.
Anyway, I kept talking and talking. I felt I created a lot of comfort at some point, but I couldn't get attraction. I seriously don't know how to do this I NEED HELP HOW TO CREATE ATTRACTION. I got some kino by a routine I created myself, which is pretty good in my opinion. However I felt I was just talking and talking and nothign happens. I hate it, since I feel exhausted after it's over and I have nothing to show for it. I got her name (facebook) and she told she doesn't have a phone yet (she's been in this country for 2 weeks). Attraction might have been a problem, since her friends were there, but she felt wery indifferent when I left. I got facebook close I guess, but it's pretty lame. I told I would show my country to her if she wanted. She didnt seem very excited, but fuck it.

If you see mistakes or whatever I would be REALLY GRATEFUL FOR ANYKIND OF HELP. Please also recommend reading material


- Vulture

STORY 1

Best bookstore routine I have ever read

Grab a copy of the idiots guide to picking up girls. flip to the "things not to say section". Approach with "Hi". Hold the book up close to your face and then completely straight faced read one of the awful pickup lines.

After that game as usual but with the benefit of "funny" on your side.

STORY 2
I think I can best explain your mistake in this one in a story from a sarge experience I had last weekend.

I approached a 2 set of one tiny hot asian and one fat ugly asian. I just started talking very nicely to the big girl and paid 0 attention to the hot one. I made sure to be touchy feely with the big girl but not express one lick of interest in her Mystery: "I'm just a touchy guy"

After about 2 minutes the little asian girl grabs my hand and says "cool rings"
I say "hands off the merchandise"

Sour look from hot girl... I continue a nice conversation with Jabba.

1 minute later

HB7: Are you just going to sit here and hit on my friend all night.

ME: "I am not hitting on anyone. Are you even paying attention to our conversation?" to her friend "does she always try to draw attention to herself like this" roll eyes

back to convo

1 minute later...

hb7: "you should be nicer to me"

me: "you should be nicer to your friend."

hb7: "are you going to take my number or what?"

me: "no, why would I want a friend that constantly tries to steal my spotlight"

On and on and on and on... #closed eventually but WILL NEVER CALL HER

You sat next to your target and showed too much interest. Woman want to chase you not the other way around. Thing of a dog that get's out of the house. You chase it and it has fun running away. Turn around and run and it will have fun chasing you.

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You can't forget about me, stupid. Everywhere I go ima have my own theme music.

Story 1:

I love your attempt and your commitment to trying reguardless of failure. In my book failure is just as important as success. You did everything perfect. Check out my posts on rejection and it should explain more on that. Also your social abilities will devevlop with every approach and every rejection. Simply keep at it.

Story 2:

The major trend I recognized in the second story is your need to keep talking and keep the conversation going! You said, "I was scared of the silence." This was one of my most major obsticles when learning. It's a feeling that causes you to believe that if you stop talking, they will run away. This is absolutely not true. NOT TRUE. Silence can be one of your best tools for building attraction. You must remember that it is a conversation, not a speech to an audience. There must be a give and take. People like talking about themselves. Thus the key is to get them to talk, allow them to respond, and allow them to express their feedback to your stories, statements, and questions. Also the use of silence after statements creates an awkward vacume, where it feels wrong for no one to be speaking. This is why you start speaking and continue speaking to avoid this feeling. Here's a hint. They feel that void to. They feel the need to fill that empty silence with words. This will cause them to talk, if you can give them the chance to. Think of it as a game of chicken. Make a statement and wait for their response. Do not say another thing until they have fully expressed that response. Even after they are done speaking, let the silence build again, think about what to say, and respond yourself. This will allow you to maintain composure, while similtaneiously creating an environment in which they must speak. The more they speak, the more they feel comfortable. Comfort is a perfect environment for attraction.

-Ben Reed AKA Breednow

www.breednowornever.com

Breednow-or-never (Dating Advice for Smart Men)

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Ben Reed is a life coach and social dynamics expert originating out of Philadelphia, PA.
-He currently is launching his new website in june:
www.Breednowornever.com

Very good replys. Very much appreciated thank you. I'm sure to read them twice to be sure. I'll be sure to post more in the future.

I'll try to listen to her more in the future and definitely talk like it's a conversation and not just babble on and on.. Thanks for the tip

Tonight is a new try. Let's see what stories I have for you tomorrow