attract, building sexual tension ,comfort i like this im going to test it on the field. I think it will work. AND this is not forcing anything. its flirting and being different. Esquire good job! for me i usually tell the girl to buy me a drink anyways and it always work SO FAR. haha hey im going to the bar are you coming? haha she will think that your going to buy her a drink and BOOM you pull a fast one on her. She be in shock and you know what that means.....

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I have had good success buying girls drinks. When I finish my drink, I say "Hey, I'm gonna get another drink. You want one too?" Before she responds, just grab her hand and start walking toward the bar. I once had a girl try to take the lead...she said something along the lines of "Are you offering to buy me a drink?" I said, "Well, I was gonna get one for myself anyway, I thought it would be the polite thing to do." I still had the lead in that situation and things went smoothly.

Another thing you can do, if you want to develop trust with them, is to hand them a $100 bill or your credit card and say "I'm heading to the restroom, why don't you go get us another round." This is a GREAT way to develop trust with a woman you barely know and take the lead. You are giving her direct orders, she's following them and she's developing trust for you. I personally have never been burned on this one.

The key is to never let them think they are leading you. If they lead you, they'll lose sexual attraction.

I don't think either one of these moves (offering to buy them a drink) should be tried unless you are HEAVY into kino, btw. If you aren't into heavy kino, I would not suggest buying a drink at all.

I think too many guys are making too big a deal out of who's paying for the drink. The big deal is to be the leader. Never allow them to lead.

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i've designed a routine for when a girl asks for a drink. i'll share it after i tested it. however i somehow have not yet been in this situation since i know pua stuff. i'm to busy being interesting. girls offer me drinks sometimes to keep my interest though.

ask a girl to sip on her drink and if she hand you her drink thats an IOI Or if she ask what drink she like and ect. Thats one IOI two more to go. haha

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One thing I normally do, within 2 minutes of the initial approach, I grab the target's drink and take a sip. I don't ask permission. I just do it. Or, if they have a cherry in their drink, grab the cherry and eat it, without asking permission.

It shows confidence and let's them know you aren't like most of the losers who beg for their attention and seek their approval.

I've had great success with this move. Never once been blown out over it.

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That sounds so AFCish to me. You must deal with women who believe their value is low.


Polite=Nice Guy=AFC

haha good job alpha some girls see that shit rude and would just turn away. I usually give her the eye and see whats that shes drinking. Her offering me some is a IOI. now lets see DHV? or IOI? haha you decide

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That's a KEY.

I wish you were kidding, but I know you're not.

Yep, that she sees you as manipulative. NOT a good thing.

Leading and manipulating are not the same thing.

MY ORIGINAL POST la tripp you look like your a loser, Every post you post up show hate, negatively, change yourself who would want to be around a deprive, negative person like yourself. Your a loser now relize that and do something about it.

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im glad to see that some of the replies have not been negative and have actually found this thread somewhat interesting.

i was just offering a different style to this situation that I have found myself in .

unfortunately for those who attacked me or were completely negative, i found that it seems the words I wrote were taken entirely too literally. I dont generally write how I converse with women. In fact my writing style is nothing like my conversational method.

as stated earlier "im too busy being interesting"

thats completely true, and part of being interesting is being different. a different approach is an interesting approach

cheers

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Artist, if you truly had any idea. Tell you what, call me a loser and every other negative thing you can think of if it makes you feel better. I really don't fucking care. Some coherency would be nice though.

There's nothing wrong with getting a girl to buy you a drink (that's one of my goals when I go out tomorrow night just to improve my game) but the way that you go about doing it says a lot about who you are. I just think that this method is very forceful and leaves this feeling like being used, or forced into something you don't want to truly do (from the girl's perspective). When you do it, you want to make her WANT to buy you that drink, so that she feels honored and special because she got to buy you a drink (that's how AFCs feel when a girl gets him to buy a drink typically). You want to reverse the situation, so you are assuming the typical girl role and she is the AFC and she goes, "Great, if I buy him a drink, he's going to like me more and I'll get to keep hanging out with him!"

This isn't about short term goals like getting a girl to get you a drink, this is about setting up a good solid foundation of her being unable to resist you and wanting to do anything she can to keep your attention. My goal is to turn the girl into the AFC of the situation.

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EXACTLY

this is what I was not able to say in text.

after rereading my original post, I can see how the 'conversation' does have a somewhat forceful, almost negative tone to it.

whenever I have used this, the conversation and words I use are character & personality specific to the woman I am gaming. NOTHING I typed in the original post is exactly what is or should be said, just basic general guidelines.

This whole thing is in fact: the Anticipation Reversal

ha

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