You will know if the second date went well if your sleeping with her at the end of it. I've found mystery's assertion that on day two or three is usually when you sleep with a girl is absolutely correct. On the date build up information about her mainly things that she fantasies about, and talk about your life. You also need to flirt with her, and build kino just learn from this date my friend. If she wants to have sex with you and you'll know when she does hopefully if you don't I can help you via PM. You had better fuck her, and fuck her good! If you don't you might not see her again. It's the same as the first kiss if you don't do it when she really wants it then you've fucked yourself.

Second or third date? That might work with college girls, but older women don't usually put out that quickly. I find that many have been around the block and know what they want.

I didn't get into kino on the first date, let alone a kiss. A good-bye hug was it. There wasn't enough comfort to make any physical moves. There should be on the second date though.

I have had a few experiences where I *DID* hook up after the third or fourth date and others that took way longer (and no, it wasn't worth the wait).

Never underestimate a woman's libido.

I think 7-hours is pretty much universal.

No kino as in you didn't touch her at all? You should initiate kino in the very very beginning.

Yeah women love sex man. The most interesting thing this art has shown me is women have universal desires for everything. It's kinda funny but the ones that are the most sexual seem to be church girls.??? I know allot of guys might say wait a second that's a bit presumptuous but it's true. Allot of them are begging for someone to give them the feelings and emotional stimulation the church so often denies them. Key word being emotional stimulation, combined with a welcome touch! It will trigger reactions if done correctly that will make most women desire to sleep with you, and generally just want to enjoy being around you.

I was confused by the "If I was free" part. the quotes make it seem like that is exactly what she wrote, so the "I" would be her.

In any case, Don't cancel friend time to be with this chick, she can't be that important. If you could do something before thats fine plus, it makes it easier to put a time constraint on the date. It sounds like you could use some push/pull with her too.

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