great stuff man, im loveing it.

But the only thing im not to fond of is when you open a set and you say "Im doing a social challenge" , to me it comes off as if your doing something for your school or work, not really setting the right state or frame you no what i mean?

Thats just me though. Keep going, im looking forward to reading more

Thans man, really great to hear!

I think I know exactly what you mean. I have been getting a lot of "What are you studying?" and "Why are you doing a test?"
I've basically just said it's for getting better with socializing with people I don't know.
This doesn't feel great but I don't feel totally blown out by it, they're still kind of intrigued. But as you said this is definitely not the ideal frame to have. I want the whole thing to seem cooler! :p

I totally get your point, and I also feel that that line has potential somehow. I'm going to experiment different angels on it and see what I come up with!

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Hey guys
Yesterday I experienced a great wedding, on which I had a great time! I’m probably going to need quite a few words to describe my performance so I’ll do another post and direct you to it. Here it is

This thread is about the challenge and I don’t want to take o much away from that.
Cheers! here-vp439955.html#439955

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yo man, I'm cheering you on!

I'm about to start this challenge, probably will start in a few days due to it being valentines day which may be awkward

Will post my successes/failures as i go in order to feel more pressured into doing the challenge haha

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Awesome dude, I look forward to check it out. Thanks for cheering! Cheering is ceering!

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Hey been following your post and taking tips..

Dont give up yet .
People usually give up after 9 or 10.
so please dont drop off.

We are there to motivate and challenge you.
Get excited when you succeed and
Learn from you..

Keep posting..

Thanks man! That's a great boost!

I've been postponing the 10th challenge for to long. I'm on it!

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Ok, after The Illusionists inspirational speech I've done some work.

The challenges for day 10 is to open 3 sets and use three different false disqualifiers , one of which I'll have to come up with on my own after the first two.
There's also a minor challenge to write down five qualitys I want and five I don't want in a girl.

I've decided to add another opener into my arsenal. The famous cologne opener which is a great opener for me. I'll have to change my logistics since it wont work very well outside, i'd have to be inside a mall or a club or just inside somehow, for it to work properly.

For disqualifiers I've decided to ask something stupid like what they're favourite ice cream is, and them neg them about it. Also ask them if they have any olympic medals and then tell them I only date olympian medalists. I'm also thinking of saying I'm the kind of guy they're mother used to warn them about, and that they would be better off with a nice guy.

The five positives I want in a girl:
1. Life experience
2. Intelligence
3. Good values
4. Adventurous
5. Good looking

The five negative thing I don't want in a girl:
1. Unhealthy
2. Emotionally instabil
3. Insecure
4. Manipulative
5. Ordinary

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I'm at the library now. I've opened some sets and done two attempts at disqualifiers and both were akward. I think I've really hit a sticking point here and I don't know why I'm stuck.

In the past I've always seemed to be to mean in my negs and disqualifiers. I have a theory that it's only the HB8.5 to HB10s who need to be negged. Girls that think of themselves as 7.5 or even 8 are already disqualifying themselves. It would seem enough to show some value then go into giving her IOIs. Then maybe calibrate with a neg if it's needed.

However, there's probably exceptions. Like direct openers where they are really wondering why I'm there. Even if I were to be high value they would still be kind of suspicious.

My first attempt today was a two set. HB7.5 or even 8 (in her mind) and HB6.5. I had colognes ready on seperate wrists and 2 confident openers behind me. I open very nice (I'r really getting good at confident openers now which is really nice) and smell my wrist and shove it into their reality . They take the bait and tell me the nicest cologne is the nicest cologne (I should have match them more evenly, one of them won a landslide) Ok so I say THIS ONE? You and I are not going to get along.
...no reaction
just weird...
I gave a time constraint and then went into the oceans opener. She gave me the right answer. I said I had to go, looked at my other wrist (the one she didn't choose) and said. Ok I'll choose THIS one then. She gave me a really dismissive look and said "you do that"

I really don't understand how I am going to get to a point where I feel a natural point in disqualifying.

Help me out guys!

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So I barely finished the challenge, without finesse, just pushing through. As I was leaving the library I noticed a girl getting up the same time as me. I quickly packed my things thinking if I walked next to her or a little bit in front, that would be a good way of opening.

Surprisingly she walked FAST! She must have been in some kind of hurry. I had to almost run in order to get next to her and ultimately in front of her. Just as we were going to split up near the exit area I opened her. She was an HB6 at the most, thought she was higher. I did the cologne opener and then asked her what her favourite ice cream was. She was really taken by surprised and just complied to the whole interaction not knowing what else to do it was so sudden. She first said she didn't know, then as I rocked away she said, "uhm I think It's the Twister" I said "We're not going to get a long" She said "Oh ok" upon I said "Ok good bye"

10 seconds later I laughed to my self... Funny thing

I also tried to disqualify another girl in the library. I sat down next to her and asked her what she was reading, I then told her I was reading Beep Beep (a childrens book). I then asked her something which I don't remember and then what her age where. She said 17 upon which I said "Woah that's young" Intending it to disqualify. Then I pretty much just rolled off.

This felt extremely unnatural for me. I'm looking forward to challenges of an other nature...

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I think you're putting the disqualification too early in the conversation, that's why is awkward.

In order to deliver a nice disqualification, you have to pass the attraction phase and be in the comfort zone. She should have already laughed to something funny you said. She should feel that you're interesting, and THEN you disqualify.

This usually take around 10 minutes.

What you are doing is kinda of "opening with disqualification", that might be ok in an high energy environment, but for day game is plain wrong...

Have fun with the ladies! Open, try to build comfort, ask personal questions, tell her part of your background. If she's receptive, disqualify. She'll laught!

Awsome advice Italian, very much what I've been looking for.

The part about having fun with the ladies is gold worth for me. See I am naturally a very social person and like to create playfulness in interaction. Somehow for some reason I've gotten the belief that I need to be a little bit of a jerk to be cocky.
When you say have fun with the ladies it really opens stuff up in my neurology or something.

Could you explain what you mean with her being "receptive"?

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Receptive means she's giving you signals she's interested in you.

If she asks you personal questions, if she looks you in the eyes, if she kino you, if her body language is open to you, if she smiles or laught, etc...

I found that, when opening with a compliment, you can keep things going/make it all less weird by telling them it's your new years resolution rather than an experiment. That way it leads into new conversation much more easily.

Also, great thread. Keep it going. It's always nice to see another PUA being built up.

Good advice on the new years resolution. That is definitely something I would say, so that'll be natural to me...

I was thinking of the whole disqualifying early in daygame on girls that are not 10, 9 or 8s... As Italian said disqualifying isn't really necessary or even productive before the hook point is reached. And that would for me, normally take a little while, at least in daygame.

I realised that bodylanguage is the key. Nonverbal ftc's and disqualifying. If I were to stand confidently and in a strong relaxed posture, maybe even "on the go", that would do the trick. I'll save the disqualifyers for more high energy venues and hotter girls...

Tomorrow I'm going out to the club, I've gotten a friend from work, initiated through a crash course. He'll be moral support and an excuse to go out. He finds the whole art of seduction as interesting as I do, so at least we'll have fun discussing patterns and stuff.

I'm going to tale on the 11th day's challenge then and there. At this point I feel a need to be at a night venue to do the challenges. I'll just have to see if that is also the case in future challenges.

The main challenge will be to open three sets with a minimum of three people (at least one girl), ftc, ground the story, body rock then ask how they all know each other. After they answer, have something to say to that, for example " i figured your'e family, now who's the black sheep?"

Wish me luck!

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