I met this girl at my new church. She is drop dead beautiful, more gorgeous than any one I've ever met, better than perfect. But she's EXTREMELY reserved and pure. There is no technique that's effective with her.

Problem-1 No adequate theory (imo)
MM,NLP,SS, Sexual tension school (60 and Gunwitch), DiCarlo's, and David X's ideas are all based on the idea that a women is inherently ready for a relationship. These kinds of women you bring home and don't respond to these concepts.

Problem-2 Falling in Love and losing your game as a consequence
I've fallen for her...and hard. I'm articulate. I'm studying psychological communication theory at the university, I did stand up comedy (was really good got a filled University auditorium to give a standing ovation.) Interpersonal and mass communications are my specialty.

When I'm around her my words can't flow, I stutter, and I get lost in her eyes. I forget everything around me and just see her. I lose my eloquence. My game falls apart.

Progress and insight
I've been able to # close and insta-date. We "studied" and chilled w/ friends. I did EXTENSIVE comfort building and used my natural DHV stories (I never force them but for ex. when asked what I want out of life I get passionate and tell them my goals and how I've worked towards them). We held hands to get her a little more warmed up to me. I've destroyed numerous obstacles like tons of AMOGS, afcs and the congregation. other obstacles I slithered by without them realizing what I was doing using 60's ideas.

I put on a virtuoso performance until now imo. Used toned down versions of NLP, and 60

We had our first official date a few days ago. It went bad. My plans were eviscerated when she said she doesn't feel comfortable in a car with any young man alone. We just ate in the University cafeteria, I was dressed up for nothing.

Her Presence destroyed my game I was super AFC. The date was awkward convo., me listening and getting lost in her eyes. Then my mentally handicapped friend came by and wouldn't leave. I tried to give him subtle and overt hints but he wouldn't go. We had a long walk. I brought her to her car and said TWICE I look forward to doing this again. No verbal agreement but a smile.

Conclusion
I've never felt like this about anyone. And I doubt it's one-itis. I've plenty of options. There is no theory that helps or advice on how to deal with falling for her.

I know sex might not be a reality with unless we're married but I'm cool with that. I just love being around her. How do I fix these problems?

Problem 1 You have limiting beliefs you believe said women is better than time tested theories, hence self-fufilling prophecy you dont even believe in the techniques yourself and she will feel it.

Problem 2 Having options does not stop a person from getting "oneitis". oneitis is caused by something new you've never had before that you really want. A player can get oneitis when the girl does something different unliike other girls.

Honestly I've met a few girls who did not respond correctly to game. Why they did not respond correctly was from bc what I was told was they were messed up in the head, or as ppl with oneitis like to call it "unique", "special", "different".
These are all fail as what is really going on is this girl has some problem in the head. If a really hot girl is not acting like the value she should be I question her? either
A. she's been sheltered from the world

B. she has some mental issues which you will usually find out when she says she was "hurt", "treated badly", etc.

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This is just my 2 cents, from my rather limited experience so take it for what it is...

Girls like the one you've described hate being around guys that are desperate for their attention. Think about it, even a true douche alpha can get oneitis, but he NEVER shows it, and thats why he gets the girls he wants.

At this point you've shown your interest and she knows that she can treat you like shit and you'll still keep coming back for more, its becoming a game and she'll keep you around because you stroke her ego every time she's around you, but she will jump on the first guy comes by, after you put in all the hard work. It sounds cruel but you really have to make her believe that you're her best bet when the two of you are together, and you do that by making her doubt her attractiveness.

At this point you NEED to show her that you don't care at all about her, show her that she doesn't mean enough to you for you to get worked up at the idea of losing her. When she starts thinking that she could lose you, then you'll be back on track. Ask her out in a group scenario, go out and hit on girls like crazy, introduce her to guys you meet at said location, but introduce her to guys that are less attractive than you. Or bring guys over to her, but they must be less attractive. In her head she'll be thinking, "Wow, hes a nice friend trying to set me up, but am I really that unattractive that he thinks these kind of guys are in my league?" Set her up with some guy, and tell them you'll let them get to know each other then walk away and remain within sight and start flirting with your other targets, if they are more attractive than her, even better.

Also know when to just quit, stop contact and just drop off her radar. Its your last resort, and you'll still have the possibility that 2 or 3 weeks later she calls you up asking what you're up to. If that does happen, play hard to get, give her the run around for a few days.

Remember this, people do not appreciate what they do not work for.

You're busting your ass for her, and all she has to do is say yes... she has no appreciation for you.

Jelly you're right its probably one-itis. Think its the first time I ever got it. Besides she's too difficult. Gonna kick her on the back burner and enjoy some of the lower hanging fruit.

This may come as a shock to you, but the game doesn't work on every single girl.

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Walk Hard

I say calm down with this girl im going through the same thing with a girl right now you problem is your frusturation man not the game

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aiden k. baker

good post.

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aiden k. baker

hb social you were completely right. I started dating other girls. I got into a relationship with a girl she used to be or is close friends with (not on purpose, I'm not that manipulative).

I broke it off with her friend. Each time I saw the original target I'd barely acknowledge her presence because I just didn't give a shit. If a girl is giving me such a hard time whatever, there's plenty of others that are willing. For about a month or two when ever we crossed paths she'd only get a nod or half smile if that. I mean if she's going to be frigid there's 2 billion other girls in the world who gives a flying F*** about her.

Today she saw me hanging out with my hot female friends, I was all social making jokes and they were having a good time. The target couldn't resist but laugh over what she was eavesdropping. I noticed she has been dressing a little more sexier for the past few weeks (she obviously wants attention). Then she made prolonged eye contact a few times. I still didn't even say hi to her.

Then a few minutes later I get a message on facebook that she confirmed a friend request I sent when I was trying to get at her. It may not be much, but I'm very confident she wants my attention, if not for me to date her again.

But right now there's two other girls. One is a hot girl I took to the back room of my job for a fun time (really great story almost pua type stuff, maybe I'll write a field report) and another who is warming up to me. Now I don't even know or care if I should try to get at my original target. It's funny how the tables have turned

Any ways great advice bro +1

good job man. Be a polite friend but dont go for that original target. She wants you to go back to the afc u used to be. Dont do that keep pushing forward. Unless she actually starts coming on to u not this bullshit adding u on facebook means nothing.

-Aiden

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