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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 5:34 pm 
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She would be my first HB10. Here is how it went.

My friend calls me last night and tells me to come over to his place because he has 2 hot girls that wanna pre drink and go clubbing. Naturally, I could not refuse this request. I got the girls apt (half way there my frind told me to go to theirs rather then to his place) and met them. We actually met last weekend briefly at a party that I threw, during which I was the center of attention and pretty much every girl was into me. Both the girls were HB10s but for the sake of distinquishing between them im going to call one of them a HB9.5.

We were talking for a while at their place, I was center of social attention and i was negging both of them indisciminately at the begining because I didnt really care which one I got with. The HB9.5 was a lot more talkative so I ended up talking to her more. We drank a bit (since they arent 21 and would not be able to drink at the club), took some photos and decided to move to the club.

On the bus... both girls were pretty much rubbing up against me but HB10 seemed more interested. She also decided to try to put on a british accent and call people on our phones as a joke. I said:

ME: here call my roommate, he is pissing me off lately (which he is, last time I ever share a room with someone...)
HER: ok, whats his name?
ME: its "roommate", tell him I might need to "use the room" tonight, see what he says..
HER: haha ok *phone rings* Hi roommate, how are you?... Whos this? Its Loups Girl, we might need to use the room tonight, if you know what I mean... You have an 8am class? well that wont do, do you want to sleep on the couch?.... No, hmm, well can we at least borrow a condom? loup doesnt seem like the kind to just carry one around... No? what?... He hung up on me :(

(btw is this an IOI? I know I initiated it but still she improvised a lot...)

Anyway, on the way to the club she was bumping into me and not moving away when I bumped touched her (IOI right?). We talked about some bs, cant remember. At the club we went into different lines, They all went to the under 21 line, in went into the over 21. It took me 20 min to get and they got in immediately. I figure this is good, make them wait. While I was in the line my friend texts me this...

TEXT: Dude, which one do you want?
ME: I dont know, just go with it
TEXT:Man, just take HB10, she looks like she is waiting for you, she asks me where you are like every 30sec
(IOI? - thats 3 right?)

Anyway, when I walked in HB9.5 was having a smoke. I negged her for it, couldnt help it, I just dont like smoke (no offence meant to anyone that does smoke here). We all talked for a couple min. HB10 pointed out that she had a six-pack so I was like "can I see it?", she showed it to me and all I said "cool, thats great". After we went to dance and HB10 started grinding me pretty much immediately. She seemed into me but I cant be sure since I am not originally american and grinding doesnt really happen in any other country, to me it seems like everyone grinds everyone indisciminately. Anyway, I escalated kino a bit and then the DJ called a "best female belly competition", she just left to go enter the competition. Me and my friend danced with some other girls for a bit and then I just left to go into to over 21 drinking area. I figured it was better then just waiting for them like a puppy dog. There i got distracted for 15min because I ran into another friend.

By the time I got back the girls "left to go to sleep since they have an 8am class" or at least thats what my friend told me. During the night before the club I managed to organize a second day tonight where we will all go to a hookah bar. Lets hope the girls dont flake, its all up to my friend to make it happen since I didnt get either phone number, they did both agree to it last night though.

My question is what do I do now? Im pretty sure Ive gotten her interested in me, remember she is hot so there is probably plenty of guys into her. Do I try build comfort? Do try to isolate her when we get to this other place? Do I neg her again or is it no longer necessary? Do I show interest or act cold or go for the other girl again? Also, Do I call her out on leaving early? I was thinking something like "I didnt realize you girls were such lightwights, oh well I guess it was bedtime, not everyone can stay up all night right?"

Should I also make her qualify herself to me, I was thinking of asking her what is so interesting about her maybe like this. "You know there is a lot of hot girls around but very few are interesting. What makes you an interesting person?"

EDIT: When we get there there will be other people in our group. Should I sit next to her? Should I site opposite her, or neutral somehow? Or should I get there first and sit down to see where she sits? I just dont wanna look too desperate


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:48 pm 
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First of, IMO, you're doing great holding a bit of a cold feet... the long wait line, not waiting on the dance floor. Both plusses, bit got distracted by bumpin' in to a friend you know but still, nice going. Big plus for that.

Yeah, pretty much, every IOI you marked, was definitly an IOI. Especially the phone call, really easy, smooth talk by her. But definitly the sign that she's into you, just to question a specific fact. Did you notice anything about her when she was saying that.. was she kino'ing you? Did she smile to you or just dead serious waiting for a reply on the phone.. if you're doubting about this being an IOI, these things are definitly taking that doubt away.

In my opinion, don't go chasing too hard after them. Going to the hookah club, as you call it is a plan like no-other. There are a bumfull of chicks, but pretty much, you got the ground start with her. Keep acting cool, push & pull with comfort zone tactics and you'll kiss close without any doubt. Seeing as she already brought up the staying over to your friend, i'm guessing you're having a good shot at her staying over too..

Initial line to get her into your room;
-- Remark on the belly dancing. For example: "Hey, how did the contest go by the way, you won right? Wanne give me a tutoring later tonight, a little one on one?"
Definitly works!

For the sitting part, what you wish to accomplish. If you wish her to be enough in the comfort zone, go sit straight in front of her. Enough eye contact to talk, push & pull rather easy & you can distance herself, make her crave for you more. Eventhough I think you passed that stage pretty hard.

I'd suggest go sit next to her.. comfort zone a bit & kino escalate.
Good luck by the way & let us know how it goes!

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:59 pm 
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Yeah she was looking at me and smiling while she was phoning my roommate, she wasnt sitting next to me so she couldnt really kino but she was kino'ing hard later on, on the walk from the bus stop to the club. Good one about the dancing lessons tho, ill def ask that.

Any other advice u guys got for me? Also, any idea on how to isolate? since it is not a club I cant really take her to sit down alone. since its a chill out type place she will be reluctant to leave her friends to sit with me alone. All I can do is sit next to her (which I will) and try to kino and push-pull.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:44 pm 
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she didnt come to the second meeting because, according to her friend "she went to philadelphia this weekend with her bf".

Wtf is wrong with girls these days? Seriousely, I feel like I have a better chance of convincing a girl to sleep with me on the first night then of actually making her meet me again.


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I have a better chance of convincing a girl to sleep with me on the first night then of actually making her meet me again.
This is CORRECT. High value girls have a million options and will forget you in a second, even if they're having a great time with you right then and there.

When you're getting IOIs as thick and as fast as that ("wanna see my 6 pack?" I mean COME ON!) then for the love of god kino, escalate, isolate, CLOSE.

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Always Be Closing.

However, this doesn't mean to say you should forget about her. Keep the number, game other women, and by all means do something with her again. Just remember to have fun with the group initially, build a fun energy, and then isolate so you can comfort build and sexually escalate.

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