Why do some people after getting into the community become highly skilled at game while others stay afc or become worse than when they started?

I knew this guy that was really into all that fake self motivational crap. He was a real creeper. Guys and especially girls hated him. He would hit on them relentlessly and he was HORRIBLE at it. He was the creepiest guy you could imagine but trying so hard to be cool. I doubt he ever even kissed a girl. But he was immensely focused on sex it was all he ever talked about. And I recently found out he was into P.U

Me on the other hand found out about PU this summer. And in the course of a few months I reached my goals. I have an active social and romantic life. I can pickup and date most women I meet;I have a very high success rate. I feel like I'm getting really good at this.

Why do some guys get really good really fast and others see no results, or even regress into the stereotypical loser wanna be pua everyone hates?

I think I have 2 ideas

1 Having a true love, respect, and appreciation for women. Just being a true gentleman (that doesn't mean afc, think James Bond)

2 Listening to advice. So many novices come in asking for help but never take it so it nullifies the point of being here, all they really learn are a few shit canned routines from the Pick Up Artist.

My theory- They read the game and think they are an expert.

I think what happens is some cats come into the game expecting stuff to go easily.
They don't actually realize it takes some serious effort on their part so they just try to learn lines.

Or they don't learn theory and assume that women will never love them and they of course just give up.

There are other people who just get it though and they wind up getting really good.
And they change themselves for the better.

I've definitely met a few people that have read 'The game' and begin to call themselves PUAs.

I would say the true turning point for my success, was when I stopped relying only on lines coined by Mystery, Style and other PUAs. I was then able to develop my own unique style and personality. This has allowed me to be more natural and use some of my innate talents (humour, outgoingness, etc). This in turn has led to an increase in confidence and results.

B-Man

I agree. I still recommend the Game to newbies, but it's not a magic book. For me it was kind of a directory(here's a brief description about DeAngelo, Jeffries etc) and it was a cool story.

For me David DeAngelo's work has been great. I am getting into NLP now just to learn more(but Im certianly not going to become hypnotizing women into sex overnight).

EDIT- I believe you guys hit it already. Some guys come here looking for the quick fix. Like all skills you need to practice, and you get better with time. And make your own damn material. It's ok to use routines, but they should be used as models. Use routines figure out how they work, and then create your own.

Why are some people rich and others poor?

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They dont follow the rules and guidelines of the experts, make their own interpretation of what they think is right, get no where , dont stick at it and give up.
Like karate, you have to trust the guy in charge is telling you what works, he wouldnt be there if he didnt know his stuff, and do as your told instead of 'huh I know what im doing I think his advice is off' WRONG
Just my opinion

i cannot agree with you more mate . in my opinion david d is massively under appreciated. his cocky and funny got me my first gf and helped me with my inner game immensly.

to the topic at hand

i think most aspiring pua's fall by the way side because they have no follow through, they get rejected once , get disheartend and quit. not only in this aspect of their lifes but in others.

furthermore like others have already stated , they read " the game " and think they know everything. true reading the game will help, if only to point you in the right direction but there is so much more.

its like learning a new subject at school. the subject can be split into different units which are then split again into sections. i know that when i first found p.u i was overwhelmed by how much info there is.

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