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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 3:53 pm 
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Hey guys, I have been in these past couple of weeks trying to start conversations with people of the opposite sex, whether they may be average or fit! And I've got to say, it has helped me a lot in terms of trying to counter act this approach anxiety I suffer from, although not entirely.

A week or two back, I had two really successful conversations with two woman who were named Sofia and Jess. The conversation with Jess was longer although I really liked the Sofia conversation better.

But because I'am not of a legitimate age to them as I am just seventeen, I struggle to get any contact information out of them. And girls that are my age, they never walk alone, they are mostly in groups, which according to the book, "The Art of Approaching" by Joseph Matthews he points out that it is easier to approach groups than to approach women or girls by themselves.

But for me I find approaching groups much more difficult and it's because I just haven't got any decent enough openers to come up with, and plus girls my age would just probably think I'm weird if I am using all of this Pick up shit on them.

But aside from that a little...

A day or two ago in a train station, where there was this really fit woman, I'd say she was a 7.5 with blonde, shoulder length hair. I was quite far away from her, so say at the opposite end of the platform and she was just the fittest woman out of all of the other people on the platform at the time, and I was just thinking to myself that I have to approach this woman regardless of how she reacts to me. And so there I was, slowly going towards her with my tennis bags etc. Trying to just walk up to her without her noticing me.

I was standing next to her and then after a couple of seconds I had said, "Hi, excuse me, but do you know how I can get to ... , Because I have literally just come back from a tournament and I am still not familiar travelling around on the trains." and she replied "No, sorry" and just walked off pretty quickly in order to catch the train as quick as possible when she had some time on her hands, then I just stood there with sheer disappointment not knowing what to do with myself that night.

So then I was really low on confidence after that and, no matter how much of a fit girl or woman I would see. I just wouldn't be able to have it in myself to just go up to them and approach without any hesitation just like I did to Sofia and Jess.

So if anyone can help, I would be very grateful as I have literally, to this point, have done nothing with a girl whatsoever and I just desperately need some help to ensure that I can just have the confidence to speak to any woman/girl without any hesitation.

Thanks a lot everyone

Vay

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Do my weeklong challenge.

Day 1: Ask 5 women directions to the nearest starbucks. Remember to smile and say thanks. You cannot fear rejection because there is no possibility of rejection.

Day 2: Ask 5 women directions to the nearest starbucks. After they give you directions, give them a compliment about something they're wearing, the way they've styled their hair, their bag, anything that you happen to notice. They'll probably say thanks and smile. Feel free to say have a nice day and walk away, or see how far you can continue the interaction.

Day 3: Ask 10 women directions, give them a compliment, and then tell them something you think about them based on the compliment. For example that they strike you as an artistic type because of their hairstyle, or as a professional type because of their dress, etc. They will likely explain something about themselves based on that. See how far you can extend the conversation. Tell them something about you, this is when a few DHV stories are useful to have in your back pocket. Before you know it you may be in a normal conversation. If you get to 5-10 minutes in, tell them you gotta run but you should hang out again soon and you should exchange contact details. Feel free to eject at this point or see how much further you can take the interaction

Day 4: Tell 10 women the compliment as your opener, tell them what you think that says about them, transition into a DHV story, and then have a normal conversation. After 5-10 minutes get the contact information, then talk about fun stuff you're doing in the future and set up a day2 with them, then say you gotta run but it was great meeting them. Once you have a day 2 set up there is no point in continuing the interaction unless you feel you can successfully extract them to your place. This is very rare during the day.

Day 5: Tell 15 women that they look amazing and you'd be kicking yourself all day if you didn't come over and find out more about them. Tell them something about themselves based on something you pick up about their style, posture, facial expressions, etc. They will explain themselves to you. Follow that thread where it goes, try and create new threads out of elements of what she says. Have your DHV stories in your back pocket in case the thread goes stale. Try and fit in stories that explain elements about yourself and what you like in people and in women. Look for her to tell you that she shares those values or appreciates those qualities. Tell her that's cool that she feels the same way / gets it about people. Tell her you should hang out again and exchange numbers after 5-10 minutes or when you've gotten some kind of connection. Talk about shit you're thinking of doing, fun places you've heard of to go. Tell her she should come along, set up a day 2.

Remember to stand tall and smile when you open. Project your voice and speak calmly. Stand at an angle so you're not facing her 100% but are more like in a V shape. Remember to kino (not massively for day game) but at least get 3 in within a minute, just touch on the shoulder, arm, small of back to emphasise points, jokes, etc.

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