Hi so I am in university, and today me and my friends decieded to play like a dare game.

We were sitting down and the objective was basicly to approach a girl.. each taking turns. Me with my slight experience, felt confident and my other friends were afraid.

Now waiting few minutes no one is approaching and i was 2nd to go after the first guy ... then we see 2 girls walking down and my friend starts talking about how hot one ofthe girls is.. so as soon as i hear that, I try n show off. I stand up go and approach the moving set from the side.

They stop... it was easy, i asked them if they were in engineering (like me...) because i knew i saw one of them in some of my classes. They said yea and I asked them what class they have next... i told them i had the same thing ( i lied) and asked if they wanted to meet up for class because i have no friends (first year so they didnt have much friends either right). I knew that if i told them that.. they would give me their number and pitty me. I did not find any of the girls that attractive but i wanted to show off to my friends i guess. I also didnt mind having them as a friend so thats why i asked her number. One girl gave it to me and then they went their way i went back to the table where my friends where.

They were all asking like how u do that, what did u say kind of thing. I tried being cool and cocky type saying " oh i just said like what class they have etc"

Now this is where things get ugly....


Girls come back from their journey.. and i see them, so i wave at them... then they realize i am sitting with friends. They scream playfully (sounded playfully) "I thougth u had no friends!" and i just smile and laugh from distance... then my idiot friend chode asshole guy stands up and screams " hes a liar liar, hes lying hes a liar" and my other friend tells him to stfu i do too but he keeps saying it to them. And the guy beside me another guy says " I dont know this guyy.." in a way that looks like hes embarased to know me.

The girls must have thought... " oh god hes a liar... a creep what do i believe?"

they go away.

5 min later.. still sitting there happily , excited to report back here my good news that i got a number so easily lol! but then the girls come back. One girl says " she wants to talk to you" (she's talking about the girl who gave me her number).

She comes to me... askes me for my phone.. "give me ur phone.." i asked why.. she says "just give me it." one of my 'friends' says "your not going to delete the number are you?" ...she says "no"... i say " k what ever here..." and i knew she was going to delete it and i wudnt want her number if she didnt want it on my phone so i felt like what ever.

I try to look waht shes doing and she moves away... then im like " ok ur deleting ur number..." she said " yea" i said " ok whatver its cool" . Then I talk to the other girl who my friends are talking to in the mean time.. I just make a comment about her.

Anyhow my self esteem and energy level dropped from super high to super low and i felt like shit!.

after the girls leave... the guy who snitched starts telling me like "yo are u retarded why did u lie to her" and they all talk shit to me which makes me feel even worse like common... The guy is a chode he cant even approach any girl and im there giving and loosing a girls number n hes talking shit.

Lesson learned dont lie.. I mean ofcourse i didnt expect to date her.. i just wanted her number n that was like a 90% chance way to get it to show off. Pua is soo much about 'faking it till you make it" I mean common this is all lies we are seducing girls its different then attracting isnt it.

If it was a quality girl maybe i wouldnt have lied and told her i had no friends or that i was in her next class.

Now i need some advice from you guys. This is universty and i read its closed system. I dont want other girls to think im a creep i think this girl arleady thinks that. What should I do forget about her? forget bout the whole situation or should I go and talk to her and tell her the truth that it was just a dare?

please give me tips im feeling down right now and i hate that chode for ratting me out.

Oh, goodness.

The girls are irrelevant. There are more out there, and soon these ones will fade away - If you see them again. The more power you give this situation over you, the more power it will have.

It's your choice.


More importantly, you need friends who support you. If you can't have friends who support you, go it alone. One year, I went through a very similar thing, and I got rid of ALL of my friends - Who weren't really friends after all. Eventually I made new ones.

The sabotage is really unforgiveable. Are you going to be the kind of person who tolerates this, or who expects more from their friends?

I did not see anything PUA related in that.

You told them you had no friends hoping for a pity number. That is the opposite of what the people on these forums should be trying to accomplish.
There was no fake it till you make it, wtf is up with these forums today.

You could have went up to them confidently and got their number in some way that was normal, what u did is below even afc behavior its more like a movie cliche wtf

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Lying is bullshit, even just for kicks.

Punch the *friend* who shouted out to the girls in the face. Sometimes I seriously wonder if this forum subscribes to a variant of English where "friend" translates to "mutually dependent immature loser".

Agreed ditch this guy cause his agenda was to make you look like a $prick to make himself look good.

That being said you dont need to lie, we all have our confidence knocked at times, but find things that make you confident. For me its working out or running. Make new friends by talking to everyone. Uni is a fantastic place to make new friends, having done a graduate and post grad degree i made tons. Im not sure what other peoples opinions are of dares, but i find they get out of control, probably best not doing it, definately dont mention it to the girls cause they will think you were immature or an approval seeker. To be labelled as either is not good.

I think you need some mature friends who are happy to see you suceed. In my post grad year. my room mate, scored with two different girls in the same weekend and me and the other guy in our flat were happy for him and supported him when one girl was trying to sabotage.

So dont seek approval, dont lie and ditch the idiot and you will get success.

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


Telling them you had no friends was a horrible way to get their number, never look for pity. It might get you "attention" but it's not the type you want. Next time you want to do something like that, just ask yourself "What would James Bond do?"

You should have just laughed it off, your friends a loser. You got the number, he just wanted to bring you down to his level. When the girl asked you for your phone, you should have said "no" and walked away and never called her.

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ya weird thing is, now one of the girls is friends with my other friend and today we were all hanging out she even added me on facebook. She is pretty cool person and i told her it was just a dare so she understands and will probably tell her friend.



The girl who took my number off i havnt seen her but atleast now i can forget about this. maybe tomorow we will hangout agian and her friend will tag along... but i will feel awkward with her around just because she deleted her number off ma phone.

I shouldnt have lied, it truly is unfair and uncool. I dont know what i was thinking but it was not very logical ... not very Socratic.

Are you gonna be awkward, or are you gonna be alpha?

What you decide here probably won't make a difference with your relationship with these people, but it will make a difference with your relationship with yourself.

Which is more important?

Agreed Renny, in fact best thing you can do is laugh about it. If they dont find it funny then are they really the kind of girls you want to spend your time with?

That's bullshit. I would never respect those guys again and ditch them. I also know how hard it is to ditch a social group though, but I would recommend doing that. You don't need idiots like them hindering your progression. And another thing, I would never give a girl my phone if she told me to give it to her like that. It makes you look like a tool as well as a bitch.

No worries though, its only one bad experience and you'll rebound.