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 Post subject: A Note On Eye Contact
PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 7:18 am 
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I couldn't make a script of everything I was saying. Words were kind of just coming out - it was the epitome of "natural", and I can safely say it actually felt natural. It seemed to be working though.

I got her number after chatting for a little while. I didn't even really know how I got there. All I was conscious of throughout the whole interaction was one small principle of body language that I have always overlooked:

Eye contact.

From beginning to end I looked directly into her eyes. From the beginning of the interaction, eye contact was made. I wasn't focusing on whether or not she was comfortable with it, or if I was being creepy. It just felt 100% natural and gave me a confident and strong feeling. I had a pleasant and engaged / interested expression on the whole time, which wasn't put on.

It sounds creepy reading about it, I'll give you that much. "You just, like, stared at her the whole time? Ugh... ew."

No no no, not in a creepy way. It wasn't like "Wow, you're gorgeous, I'm going to engage in non-mutual sexual intercourse with you later." It was more like

"I'm genuinely interested in what you have to say, and I'm confident and comfortable enough that I don't have anywhere else to look but at you."

I was so surprised at how the words kind of flowed out and the conversation seemed completely natural. Just from eye contact. When you're looking around, at your feet, at people around you, at your watch or cell phone or the girl's tits, you are only thinking of either:

a) what to say next, how to make yourself more comfortable, how to make the conversation turn towards your desired outcome;

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b) the outcome itself, not how to get there.

Thinking of the end result doesn't help you. The power of now is not harnessed when thinking of the future or the past. Eye contact establishes an "I'm here, right now" kind of mental state. Looking at the person's eyes keeps you focused on what she is saying right now. Your response generates on the spot that moment, and based on the rapport that builds as a side effect, it usually works in your favour, and gets you that end result without you even trying.

Just something that really came to my attention the other day. Try it out, if you don't already.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:53 pm 
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Interesting note, psychopaths are known for their intense and un-flinching stare during conversations.

It's one of the things that often makes them irresistable to women.

Very strong eye contact, can be a huge sexual turn on.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:50 pm 
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Great post dude. Im glad that you noticed that you cannot just stare at her in a creepy way. It's better to have her feel the confort you have established with her. You seemed to be "in the zone" at that moment. I will definately give this a try because I usually try to be so laid back that I break eye contact on purpose. But it seems very powerful, especially since chumps who are into a female do not connect with eye contact as you have. I guess its because it can be so intimidating to do it.
The only thing that I would add is that you have to make sure that you are aware whether the female is not weirded out by your eye contact and body language. If you maintain the correct amount of body language and eye contact, you are golden. But as soon as you mess up and do too much or too little, the female will perceive you to be socially inept, which is very unattractive.

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Awesome note man, ~Finesse wrote a really great post that was similar to this a while back, you might enjoy it: eye-contact-game-vt67468.html

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Good post bro (Y)


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Great post, but I will disagree with one thing: keeping the end result in mind. My sticking point has been transitioning from midgame to closing. The one thing that's helped me is keep the end result in mind. Gunwitch has written extensively on this, and it's worked wonders for me. As a disclaimer, I only run natural game with a decent amount of C&F and outrageous/sexual openers.


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Heh, never thought I'd be saving one of your posts. Good stuff man, I need to work on stronger eye contact as well. I've been lacking in my practicing of techniques as of late. Keep us updated on what happens


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I agree eye contact is a very very big key...lets them know your confident as well as a turn on since alot of guys are sheepish...BUT in the same sense wouldnt it be good to try.... eye contact but occasionally look at something else to make it seem like she doesnt have all the control and that she doesnt have YOU hooked? If she thinks she has you then she KNOWS shes the one calling the shots.


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Eye contact is the number one thing I use in pick up.

I even use that shit on my hot teachers LOL!

Especially in louder places like clubs, this is very helpful.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 4:01 am 
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I agree eye contact is a very very big key...lets them know your confident as well as a turn on since alot of guys are sheepish...BUT in the same sense wouldnt it be good to try.... eye contact but occasionally look at something else to make it seem like she doesnt have all the control and that she doesnt have YOU hooked? If she thinks she has you then she KNOWS shes the one calling the shots.
Not if you are just socially dominant and not letting her lead you. Maintaining eye contact gives the opposite impression of being controlled. It means you are in control.

If she has you hooked, she has you trying to seek a reaction from her, she has you filling silences, asking her interview questions... you know the symptoms.

Eye contact simply shows strong frame and social dominance, let alone classic confidence.

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Not if you are just socially dominant and not letting her lead you. Maintaining eye contact gives the opposite impression of being controlled. It means you are in control.

If she has you hooked, she has you trying to seek a reaction from her, she has you filling silences, asking her interview questions... you know the symptoms.

Eye contact simply shows strong frame and social dominance, let alone classic confidence.
That is a very good point.


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great post :D

i think when youve got eye contact with a girl you create a little bubble. you forget where you are, when in the flow of the moment, just you two. You can also get a lot further in terms of kino and sexual tension and what you say because she'll forget about the social setting.

dominance? yes. sexually confident? yes.
women dont usually get the honest look of wanting to tear them apart everyday.

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