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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:50 pm 
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not literally killing myself, just cant stop thinking about it and being mad that I didnt do anything.

today im walking around campus to my car, its really hard to get parking and I was done with my classes. HB8 in her car ask me if Im leaving and where did I park. I tell her I parked far and she asks if I want a ride(its freaking hot outside so I was happy) She told me to hop in the back, I did. I know realize that I have an opportunity in front of me but my mind goes completely blank and I didnt know what to say and I also realized I forgot my phone in my car(just in case of # close)

We finally get to my car, I hope out she says thanks and I back out the parking and she comes in to park. As im driving to the food court, everything comes back into my mind about all the things I could of said and im pissed that my mind went blank I forgot my phone and she was my type( HB8 cute, Spanish, fit, curly hair)

What would you have done in that situation? or what could I have done in that situation soon as I hope in?

Everything happened so quick, I guess that's why my head went blank.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 6:56 pm 
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Hey man, first I'll say it's encouraging that you're noticing these opportunities to be social and friendly, if you continue to be open to the possibilities that pop up in your life I guarantee you're going to meet cool people.

As for realizing the opportunity -> freezing up, I think I might be able to help. I'm all about being open to all possible outcomes in social interaction, and I think this is a good example of being emotionally invested in a single outcome (getting her number or more) getting in the way of relaxed communication. Let me ask you this, if instead of a cutie giving you a lift it was a dude, imagine how things might have gone. Maybe you ask him what he studies, or what year he is, or where he's from, or whatever, you're just looking for conversation because your social and friendly, and you're not interested in anything more because he isn't a potential mate (throw this out the window if you're bi by the way, the whole idea is that the person is someone you're not sexually interested in). You're not worried about finding a cool opener that sets you apart and maybe DHVs you a bit, you're just passing the time.

I say treat the interaction with any future cuties the exact same way, just chat her up man, there is nothing wrong with desiring her if you're not attached to getting somewhere with her, and you'll be able to relax and be friendly a hell of a lot easier. Moreover, once you're relaxed and vibing socially, I bet you'll find interesting and charming conversation will start to flow all on it's own.

One more thing to take away from your experience, the next time you're in this spot or a similar one, you will be more relaxed about it, if only by virtue of having gone through it before. Moreover, you can use your feeling of disappointment that you didn't push the interaction further by chatting her up as an impetus to do so in the future. Just don't put pressure on yourself to 'get it right' the next time, since you can't control the outcome of a social interaction I think you should focus on controlling your attitude: relaxed, friendly, unassuming, confident, etc.

Hope this helps, good luck man.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:52 pm 
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Hey man, first I'll say it's encouraging that you're noticing these opportunities to be social and friendly, if you continue to be open to the possibilities that pop up in your life I guarantee you're going to meet cool people.

As for realizing the opportunity -> freezing up, I think I might be able to help. I'm all about being open to all possible outcomes in social interaction, and I think this is a good example of being emotionally invested in a single outcome (getting her number or more) getting in the way of relaxed communication. Let me ask you this, if instead of a cutie giving you a lift it was a dude, imagine how things might have gone. Maybe you ask him what he studies, or what year he is, or where he's from, or whatever, you're just looking for conversation because your social and friendly, and you're not interested in anything more because he isn't a potential mate (throw this out the window if you're bi by the way, the whole idea is that the person is someone you're not sexually interested in). You're not worried about finding a cool opener that sets you apart and maybe DHVs you a bit, you're just passing the time.

I say treat the interaction with any future cuties the exact same way, just chat her up man, there is nothing wrong with desiring her if you're not attached to getting somewhere with her, and you'll be able to relax and be friendly a hell of a lot easier. Moreover, once you're relaxed and vibing socially, I bet you'll find interesting and charming conversation will start to flow all on it's own.

One more thing to take away from your experience, the next time you're in this spot or a similar one, you will be more relaxed about it, if only by virtue of having gone through it before. Moreover, you can use your feeling of disappointment that you didn't push the interaction further by chatting her up as an impetus to do so in the future. Just don't put pressure on yourself to 'get it right' the next time, since you can't control the outcome of a social interaction I think you should focus on controlling your attitude: relaxed, friendly, unassuming, confident, etc.

Hope this helps, good luck man.
its funny how last semester the same thing happened but it was a blonde girl, at that time I didnt know about the pua stuff, I still didnt try anything with her but I didn't feel pressure to try something. I was kinda embarrassed and shocked that the blonde offered me a ride since I was coming from the gym and was sweaty.

But anyways, How would a person even be able to # close in this situation?


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:33 pm 
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Well, this really comes down to style. The way I try to approach social situations is based on being relaxed, having a genuine interest in social interaction (without being totally focused on the benefits that can follow it, like getting laid), and being unapologetic for my desires. So how do I #close? It might be as simple as saying:

"You're fun, let's hang out sometime, put your number in my phone"

If you are operating from the mindset that you must find a way to convince her that you're worth hanging out with, I believe you are going to struggle. Now this is how I do things, other people put their stock in more structured approaches to networking with other people. For example, they might open with something they've had success with in the past, and more importantly choose a topic that has conversation threads they are prepared for, then they would parlay those threads into building rapport while observing the target for signs of attraction, then they might seed the idea of a future date, then they might use push pull, then after they have created fear of loss at a high point of attraction they would turn around and #close based on the previously seeded idea.

In my opinion, it all depends on where you're coming from in terms of your level of social skills, and where you ultimately want to go. Some guys have big initial success with a structured approach and parlay that into becoming naturally charismatic individuals. Other guys try to uncover their natural charisma without the jump start you can get with structured routines. It is my personal belief that reliance on structured routines and only structured routines will be limiting down the road, but that has more to do with my goals and attitude towards social interaction, that is, I don't offer it up as gospel just my opinion on the matter.

Short version:

Talk to her for a bit, if she seems cool and receptive tell her to put her number in your phone. Alternatively, learn a routine that you are comfortable with that builds to a number close.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:24 pm 
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Well, this really comes down to style. The way I try to approach social situations is based on being relaxed, having a genuine interest in social interaction (without being totally focused on the benefits that can follow it, like getting laid), and being unapologetic for my desires. So how do I #close? It might be as simple as saying:

"You're fun, let's hang out sometime, put your number in my phone"

If you are operating from the mindset that you must find a way to convince her that you're worth hanging out with, I believe you are going to struggle. Now this is how I do things, other people put their stock in more structured approaches to networking with other people. For example, they might open with something they've had success with in the past, and more importantly choose a topic that has conversation threads they are prepared for, then they would parlay those threads into building rapport while observing the target for signs of attraction, then they might seed the idea of a future date, then they might use push pull, then after they have created fear of loss at a high point of attraction they would turn around and #close based on the previously seeded idea.

In my opinion, it all depends on where you're coming from in terms of your level of social skills, and where you ultimately want to go. Some guys have big initial success with a structured approach and parlay that into becoming naturally charismatic individuals. Other guys try to uncover their natural charisma without the jump start you can get with structured routines. It is my personal belief that reliance on structured routines and only structured routines will be limiting down the road, but that has more to do with my goals and attitude towards social interaction, that is, I don't offer it up as gospel just my opinion on the matter.

Short version:

Talk to her for a bit, if she seems cool and receptive tell her to put her number in your phone. Alternatively, learn a routine that you are comfortable with that builds to a number close.
What if she doesnt want to give the number? do u give it another attempt and see if she really wasnt interested or do u just forget about it?

by the way the thing that happened with the Spanish HB8, I dont know what you think, but I dont think I would have been able to # close so quick, the ride was not a long ride and I dont even know how I would respond if she didnt want to give me her number.


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Well, this really comes down to style. The way I try to approach social situations is based on being relaxed, having a genuine interest in social interaction (without being totally focused on the benefits that can follow it, like getting laid), and being unapologetic for my desires. So how do I #close? It might be as simple as saying:

"You're fun, let's hang out sometime, put your number in my phone"

If you are operating from the mindset that you must find a way to convince her that you're worth hanging out with, I believe you are going to struggle. Now this is how I do things, other people put their stock in more structured approaches to networking with other people. For example, they might open with something they've had success with in the past, and more importantly choose a topic that has conversation threads they are prepared for, then they would parlay those threads into building rapport while observing the target for signs of attraction, then they might seed the idea of a future date, then they might use push pull, then after they have created fear of loss at a high point of attraction they would turn around and #close based on the previously seeded idea.

In my opinion, it all depends on where you're coming from in terms of your level of social skills, and where you ultimately want to go. Some guys have big initial success with a structured approach and parlay that into becoming naturally charismatic individuals. Other guys try to uncover their natural charisma without the jump start you can get with structured routines. It is my personal belief that reliance on structured routines and only structured routines will be limiting down the road, but that has more to do with my goals and attitude towards social interaction, that is, I don't offer it up as gospel just my opinion on the matter.

Short version:

Talk to her for a bit, if she seems cool and receptive tell her to put her number in your phone. Alternatively, learn a routine that you are comfortable with that builds to a number close.
What if she doesnt want to give the number? do u give it another attempt and see if she really wasnt interested or do u just forget about it?

by the way the thing that happened with the Spanish HB8, I dont know what you think, but I dont think I would have been able to # close so quick, the ride was not a long ride and I dont even know how I would respond if she didnt want to give me her number.
How about, "Ok that's fine, i appreciate the ride, maybe i'll see you around sometime. Bye"
When she says no or makes an excuse it usually means you haven't created enough comfort or attraction and there is no point in responding in any way other than normal and polite.
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If you had made conversation i.e. talked about places she likes to go out, it makes it a lot easier to not only ask for a number but get one. " You go to (any club/bar), i know a way better place close, give me your number and maybe we could go sometime. you'll like it"

This is my opinion, but i hope it helps if even just a little. :D Let us know how future interactions go!


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Well, this really comes down to style. The way I try to approach social situations is based on being relaxed, having a genuine interest in social interaction (without being totally focused on the benefits that can follow it, like getting laid), and being unapologetic for my desires. So how do I #close? It might be as simple as saying:

"You're fun, let's hang out sometime, put your number in my phone"

If you are operating from the mindset that you must find a way to convince her that you're worth hanging out with, I believe you are going to struggle. Now this is how I do things, other people put their stock in more structured approaches to networking with other people. For example, they might open with something they've had success with in the past, and more importantly choose a topic that has conversation threads they are prepared for, then they would parlay those threads into building rapport while observing the target for signs of attraction, then they might seed the idea of a future date, then they might use push pull, then after they have created fear of loss at a high point of attraction they would turn around and #close based on the previously seeded idea.

In my opinion, it all depends on where you're coming from in terms of your level of social skills, and where you ultimately want to go. Some guys have big initial success with a structured approach and parlay that into becoming naturally charismatic individuals. Other guys try to uncover their natural charisma without the jump start you can get with structured routines. It is my personal belief that reliance on structured routines and only structured routines will be limiting down the road, but that has more to do with my goals and attitude towards social interaction, that is, I don't offer it up as gospel just my opinion on the matter.

Short version:

Talk to her for a bit, if she seems cool and receptive tell her to put her number in your phone. Alternatively, learn a routine that you are comfortable with that builds to a number close.
What if she doesnt want to give the number? do u give it another attempt and see if she really wasnt interested or do u just forget about it?

by the way the thing that happened with the Spanish HB8, I dont know what you think, but I dont think I would have been able to # close so quick, the ride was not a long ride and I dont even know how I would respond if she didnt want to give me her number.
How about, "Ok that's fine, i appreciate the ride, maybe i'll see you around sometime. Bye"
When she says no or makes an excuse it usually means you haven't created enough comfort or attraction and there is no point in responding in any way other than normal and polite.
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If you had made conversation i.e. talked about places she likes to go out, it makes it a lot easier to not only ask for a number but get one. " You go to (any club/bar), i know a way better place close, give me your number and maybe we could go sometime. you'll like it"

This is my opinion, but i hope it helps if even just a little. :D Let us know how future interactions go!

I was thinking, when she had gave me the ride, soon as I got in I should of said in a funny tone/sarcastic tone

Me: I hope you dont drive crazy
Her: she probably would of responded by saying she doesnt
Me: You sure, cause u got that look
Her: what look?
Me: the crazy driver with road rage
Her: probably would of laugh and probably would of said she isnt
Me: plus your a girl, girls drive way more crazier then guys
Her: probably responds to defend girls by syaing no they dont, guys drive crazier

I could of make up a story on the spot and continue from there and then ask what classes she going too, major, years shes in, etc.

well I learned from my mistakes and now I know I should be prepared to game at anytime, even if im walking to class, or eating, or at the library


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