This is something that has perplexed me for ages now. I have never been able to find any reliable data on this question and most people won't speak openly about this, but how many sexual partners does the average PUA get? Or the average guy? How many women must a man sleep with before he can objectively say that he has slept with "a lot" of women and has experience with women or can be looked upon as an authority figure / MPUA?

When I sex, I mean full, sober, sexual intercourse. Not getting phone numbers, not flirting, not hand jobs, not making out, not bjs nor heavy petting. I mean, raw one-on-one sex, penetration, complete with orgasm.

I keep track of every woman I sleep with. I'm new to the PUA scene, but I've still been trying on my own for years to learn the game. I lost my virginity at 15, I'm 29 years old now. I've slept with 98 women. Is that a lot? I don't feel like it is, but compared to some guys I know, yes it is.

I mean, in the book The Game, it says that Style slept with hundreds of women.... yet he didn't start the game until his late twenties, but he got out in his early thirties...???? It doesn't make sense. Sleeping with hundreds of women takes a serious amount of time.

What are your numbers? I'd like to hear what PUA's numbers are. I know that not everyone keeps exact records like me, but what do you honestly think your number is? (Let's not exaggerate our numbers either.... there is no sense in it here because it's anonymous). Is 98 women for a 29 year old New Yorker average, high or low for a PUA? I'd like your input....

98 women is a LOT

If anyone tells your otherwise they're just trying to make themselves feel better.

I'm sure 98 women would be a lot for a 23 year old, but I'm 29. That only averages out to be about 7 women per year since I was 15... and most of them occurred from the age of 21-26.

It's just that I feel like if someone is a dedicated PUA, like I read on so many posts here and other places, they should be getting at least one woman per month. Aren't they sarging every couple days? So by age 29, they should have had at least 150 sexual partners if not more.

Am I being unrealistic? All my friends have no game at all. They average about 20 sexual partners total for my age group. I hear success stories a lot on the forums, but what about the bigger picture?

Open Question: If you get laid, that's great, but how long has it been since the last? And how many total by your age? Do you really think someone like Style has slept with "hundreds" (i.e. more than 200 women) as claimed in The Game? Or is that just marketing?

well think about it, most american males have 87 sexual partners in their LIFE

you've had 7 a year since you were 15.....


for a pua, we can't really say, since real PUAs don't keep track

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Where did you get that statistic about "most American males have 87 partners in their life"??? Did you just make that number up? It's nowhere near that. Everything I've read has put the number closer to 20-25 (just google it; there is a wealth of scientific research on the subject). That is why I'm asking about the numbers for PUA.

As for real PUAs not keeping track... Puleeeease! PUA keep track of every detail of their sex lives and seduction... and then they write a field report about it. Where have you been? Of course they know their numbers... at least a rough estimate (we've all been drunk a few times and didn't remember every detail). And if you truly are a PUA then you should be documenting everything to build off of and learn from... so of course they know their numbers.

Like I alluded to in the original post, I think a lot of people don't talk about their numbers because they are a lot lower than they want to admit, but almost everyone knows approximately. You can't honestly call yourself a PUA when you're 30 years old and have only been with 30 women... you just got lucky over an extended period of time.

Kissing a HB you, making-out, touching or heavy-petting might make some guys feel like Casanova, but it hardly qualifies as anything more than an IOI to a PUA like me. It's just women experimenting to see if they like you, it doesn't mean anything until they surrender completely. I've seen girls make out with multiple guys in one night yet go home alone... they just wanted to be wild and it didn't really matter who the guy was, it could have been anyone.

20 to 25 for guys? I seen studies with lower numbers than that. But I doubt such studies are all that accurate really. As far as the number for PUA goes. Your not going to get even close to an honest number really if you want to know the truth.
Can you honestly recall every single girl you had sex with in detail? I highly doubt it.
So the whole point of being a PUA is to have sex with as many girls as possible? Maybe they should rename it to how to become a male gigolo? Just a thought.

I say so. Not every single PUA wants to bang girls left and right. For one the more partners you have the higher chance for STD's and pregnancy. Even if you wore a condom your chances go up with the more partners you have.
Its marketing and nothing more. Its used to grab desperate horny 20 somethings to buy his book.

im with you on this quinny, i just turned 29 and my numbers are the same... ive slept with circa 140 girls, albeit money did change hands for 30 of these. my friends say its loads but it really isnt

but considering the fact that i have been pissed every weekend since i was 17, and i travelled for 2 years and went out every night, (600) thats 600 + 600 = 1200 nights out on the pull.

that equates to a shag every 12 attempts which is a terrible ratio for me, the last 2 years ive moved to a city and brought it down a bit but i still think theres a great deal of underachievement in there. For every girl ive bent it in theres another 2 that ive brought back to mine and ive had the LMR or the friend cock block me.

half these girls were fat and the other half i had to graft for, thats why i read the books, i want to get from A1 to C3 as quickly as i can.

Im excellent at openings and often use comedy too to woo the girl, but need improvement on C1-C3. If i did, then id be looking at a number closer to 300

and lets not pretend its not about shaggin the birds, it is i have a friend who goes out and if he makes out with a bird then he's the happiest man alive and wont stop talking about it the next day, kissing is on the same level as shaking the hand for me,

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If you have some game, and you have enough money and time to travel yeah, it's easy to count 200 girls.

Girls usually like tourist/foreign guys, + it's more easy with them , because you are in a rush , they are in a rush, you tell them that tomorrow you will live ,etc..

As a matter of fact, yes, I can. I've kept a detailed journal of my life since I was 21. So naturally, I record every time I get laid (up until age 21, I'd only slept with about 20 women so I had to use memory to record those but it wasn't that difficult).

In fact, I give special attention to the sex entries. I know exactly how many woman I've slept with, their names, ages, locations, how hot they were on a 1-10 scale, whether we used protection, whether the sex was good, etc... I even started using sex tracking websites such as Bedpost and Nookist.

With the rise in popularity of Facebook, I've managed to find a lot the women that I'm no longer in contact with, and now I have photos of about 60 of the women that I've slept with. So I know what they look like then and now. I also video hd video record my sexual encounters with women if they allow it. So I have several high definition videos of about 15 separate HBs I've f-closed.

Tru dat Jonnydee! I appreciate your honesty. Yeh, it doesnt' really seem like a lot to me now that I've reached almost 100. I too have slept with loads of hookers but I don't include them in my count. I also don't include it if I don't really remember it. So 98 is my real number.

As far as your ratio goes, I'd say I'm right there with you. I mean, I hit on girls constantly, but I only sleep with a small fraction of them. I'd guesstimate that the 98 women I've shagged represents about a 15% success rate.... Not great, but I don't believe that any woman can be seduced. There are plenty of woman (and a few men) who are so in love, that they would never cheat on their significant other, or maybe they're just not that sexual, or maybe they're too fucking busy, or whatever the reason. Not everyone is available all the time.

I disagree about money. I've never had much and I've done just fine for myself. Although I have slept with hookers, I don't count any of them in my final number of 98 sexual partners. I also don't count it if I was too drunk to remember or if I didn't climax.

Besides, if I had to use money to get laid, or if I knew that women were just sleeping with me because I was loaded, then I wouldn't be able to feel good about it. I'd feel rotten in fact and I'd do something about it.

As for traveling, I agree that there is a unique appeal to women knowing that you're different and won't be around long. Besides, most of my sex partners were here in NYC, not traveling. Women are the same way when they're traveling though too.

Where did you get that statistic about "most American males have 87 partners in their life"??? Did you just make that number up? It's nowhere near that. Everything I've read has put the number closer to 20-25 (just google it; there is a wealth of scientific research on the subject). That is why I'm asking about the numbers for PUA.

As for real PUAs not keeping track... Puleeeease! PUA keep track of every detail of their sex lives and seduction... and then they write a field report about it. Where have you been? Of course they know their numbers... at least a rough estimate (we've all been drunk a few times and didn't remember every detail). And if you truly are a PUA then you should be documenting everything to build off of and learn from... so of course they know their numbers.

Like I alluded to in the original post, I think a lot of people don't talk about their numbers because they are a lot lower than they want to admit, but almost everyone knows approximately. You can't honestly call yourself a PUA when you're 30 years old and have only been with 30 women... you just got lucky over an extended period of time.

Kissing a HB you, making-out, touching or heavy-petting might make some guys feel like Casanova, but it hardly qualifies as anything more than an IOI to a PUA like me. It's just women experimenting to see if they like you, it doesn't mean anything until they surrender completely. I've seen girls make out with multiple guys in one night yet go home alone... they just wanted to be wild and it didn't really matter who the guy was, it could have been anyone.

No, you need to have some money.
Without money, you will have to work to make money, and you will not have enough time to fuck the 200 girls in your entire life.
For travel you also need money, for clothes you also need money,etc...
i never said to pay hookers, but common , you need to always have 100$ in your pocket man.

And money can make miracles. Of course, not if you spent them on an expensive dinner, but you can rent an ATV to have some fun for the same $ you would spent at dinner @ MCDonald's, or you can rent 2 horses for a ride. If you take girls to an ATV fun walk, you give them some adrenaline, they will begun to jump on you man. Yeah, if money are ok for you, you may also rent an helicopter. [Around 500$-1000$ i think] How much an "expensive" dinner (as states in David deAngelos,etc) is costing in US?
What do you do when girls come to your home, and they ask for a drink? Because if i am with a girl,and she tell me "i want to get drunk" i get her drunk, because i know she is saying "i want to have sex with you".
Also you need money to enter in a club, to buy a pepsi when there are 90F outside, for a nice rent, for gass or for taxi etc.

I think that if this is your goal, with 2-3 years free time and 30 000$ in your pocket to be spent, you can have sex with the 200 girls. Of course if you have a little game and a "heart to do this" [fuck every girl, and drop her for the next one]

and yeah , a fucking good memory

i meant 7 lol mistyped

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