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PostPosted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:29 pm 
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We all go through a fairly repetitive daily schedule. For the common man, most of our day is spent indoors at the desk typing on the computer, sending out emails, or performing some other mind-numbing task.

Even though I have to work 5 days a week, I make it a point to try and talk to women whenever and wherever I can--subway, supermarket, coffee shop. However, one of the things I have struggled with is how exactly to get their number in such a short amount of time without being overly creepy/aggressive. I wanted to see if anyone had any sight into this sticking point of mine in day game.

Also, another sticking point that I'm sure affects many others is translating these numbers into day 2's. When I'm on the subway to work in the morning, or out on lunch break, I only have a matter of minutes to meet and get a girl's number. It is rare that I have time to build comfort with a girl so therefore it is obvious that you will get a large number of flakes this way. Is there any good ways to build up comfort through texts, etc?

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"Hey, you seem kinda cool, and I'd love to keep chatting with you, but [constraint is happening] right away. How do I get a hold of you?" This is a riff on my standard number close, used for time-constrained situations, that has worked for me, consistently, for years.

As for comfort building through texts... Calling her a couple of times to continue conversations, or start new ones, is better in my opinion. Text lacks emotional tonality, and when building comfort, tone can be the difference between a great routine and complete crap.

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"Hey, you seem kinda cool, and I'd love to keep chatting with you, but [constraint is happening] right away. How do I get a hold of you?" This is a riff on my standard number close, used for time-constrained situations, that has worked for me, consistently, for years.

As for comfort building through texts... Calling her a couple of times to continue conversations, or start new ones, is better in my opinion. Text lacks emotional tonality, and when building comfort, tone can be the difference between a great routine and complete crap.
Although I agree with these methods (in that they are good suggestions) - as far as the question at hand, with respect, I think this is the complete wrong approach.

Your question is quite broad, overall, though it can be broken down to some fundamental, broad strokes.

Essentially, what you say (such as some of the things Monkey suggested) to get her number doesn't matter. It's totally irrelevant. Everything you do UP UNTIL that point, is what will determine if you get her number (and also if she will go on a day 2 with you).

You have to forget about 'closes'. The number means nothing. It's such a stupid close it shouldn't even exist (like K-closes). Rather than reaching specific marker points in your pickup, you should instead visualise it as a flowing journey.

To get day 2s, you should be setting them up BEFORE YOU GET THE NUMBER; the only possible reason to get the number is just for convenience so you can call to find out where she is as you're meeting. There's no other reason, you might as well not take it. I don't even game over the phone. My calls are like normal sarging (unless it's sexual), and my texts are like "hey, so when are we meeting x". Phone is a means to an end, nothing else.

The final key to your first question - how to number close quickly - is that you need a reason to meet. Usually, for me, I do this by going direct/with a statement of intent. I want to meet up with you later because I like you. Fair enough. If she reciprocats, you're in. The other way is that you can try and find a commonality, such as you both enjoy Japanese food, and go do that together. But that's more difficult. So what I'm saying here, is you need to stop deluding yourself and her and go more direct. If you want her, get her.

All these points broadly cover one main theme - which is - she will only meet you later if she wants to meet you. So make her WANT to meet you before you consider closing her. Then once you've closed her, STAY for a bit longer and consolidate it. If you get the number and you leave, text 5 mins later to take advantage of the BT you just created to gain some quick phone rapport/comfort/compliance.

To summarise:

1. Number is irrelevant
2. What is relevant, is value preceding your 'number close'
3. In order to meet, she needs a reason to meet; state your intent/SOI
4. Set up day 2 before, or at least the intention of meeting later
5. Text her a immediately or a few mins after you get the number.
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We all go through a fairly repetitive daily schedule. For the common man, most of our day is spent indoors at the desk typing on the computer, sending out emails, or performing some other mind-numbing task.
Also, something that annoyed me a little - the 'common man' does not necessarily spend his day indoors at a desk typing on a computer! Not everyone is like you mate (or have the privilege of being indoors with a desk and a computer)!


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