So I've been doing only LIGHT reading (I'm still reading daily on books about this subject) of PU, I have school among other things keeping my life extremely busy. Anyways I read enough to realize that you need to have balls to talk to a girl (sad that a book had to teach me that.) rather than waiting, like I used to, to have a girl talk to you.

The point, I number closed this girl a few nights ago at a convention, I went up to her, pretended that she was someone I know (ALL YOU NOOBIES OUT THERE, THIS TOTALLY WORKS! =] ) and just proceeded wit hte conversation. I told her that we should get together with her friends, and I should grab her number. She gave it to me and I promplty left.

Anyways, its been 4 days, and I texted her, we striked up a small conversation and she texted me this giant text about problems in her life with her parents, immediately I went to the next step and Called her.

We talked for about an hour before I had to cut it off (I didn't want to talk too long.) I told her I would call her again, but before I hung up I invited her to this get toegher at a lounge with my friends, she said she was interested.

Okay, now my dilemma, I'm not really sure how to play this at this point, I'm going to call her at the same time tomorrow, and again, we'll only talk for an hour. But I want to know if there is any tips you guys could throw my way a bout getting her to goto this lounge with me without coming off as pushy, or needy.

I really like this girl.

thanks, that was long.

anyone?

as far as i know from personal experience when you talk to a girl for an hour and she starts complaing about personal/family issues....it's bad. for her you are now (if not, you are in progress to become) her new best firend.

but let's forget about that and perpeare you for the next call. You call her and this time be short (you are a busy men, remember?). try to avoid the famly discussion, it will only make it worst.

so i assume the lounge is this weekend? then text her one day before. if the lounge has a dresscode tell her to dress properly or anything like that (tell her something that has to do with it, bu don't ask her). if not just text her: "excited?"

I can tell you from my brief experience that numbers are shit.

You need to same day close or else logistics and lost interest will screw you out of closing.

Well it was kind of wierd, we were just making small talk VIA text message, and she texted me, and I didn't respond for like 30 minutes or so. So she texts me AGAIN with this giant text. THEN I decided to call her. See, she just moved here, and I'm not sure if she has anyone else to talk to.. I'm hoping she doesnt see me as a "best friend" guy, but we'll see.

I'm thinking im going to call her in an hour or so and ask how her day went, and tell her a bit more about the lounge event as well. This time I'm only going to call for 30 minutes or so, like you said "I'm very busy." lol.

thanks for the input, I'll let you know how it goes.

I'm 99% sure I'm just going to drop this girl if she doesn't come with me to the lounge. I'm talking to more than enough girls at this moment.

good luck

thanks!
Okay so we spoke for a very brief amount of time (She had to cut it short, before I had a chance to. ugh. Bad, I know.)
And she is definitely coming to the lounge with my friends and I.

Not entirely sure what I should do, I've never been to this club before, or a club period.

Any input? Should I carpool with her? Kiss her?

don't worry abouth her cuting you off

carpool? who's driving? you or her? i would suggest drive her back.
as for the club, hmm. have fun. if you are really having fun, she will sense that and feel more confortable around you. if you can dance it's even more perfect. don't drink to much(just get a bit tipsy)...just enough to keep you in shape (2-3 glasses of rum& coke)

try to be chil. dhv, build comfort etc. since it's a club do some kino (very important)
if you talk to her whisper but keep eyecontact. yes of course go for a k-close.


good luck my friend and let us know how it went

I don't mean to be so very dependant on your information, i hope you don't find this annoying. I value your advice very much so, btw. But.
since I'm only just beginning in this art, I'm quite new to 'kino' what would be an example of it? I'm reading up on it right now

Kino is basically touching her while you are talking to her, in accordance to what topic you are speaking about.

For example, a kino escalation technique my boyfriend used on me when he was first gaming me was "I've been told I have guitarist's (or any type of musician - you choose!) hands. What do you think?" I was then looking at his hands (which are very sexy!) and I was like "yeah I agree - what type of instrument could I play??" and he was like "show me your hands..." so I did and he sort of held my hand and turned it over and then said "definitely the triangle - my gosh these hands are absolutely MADE for playing the triangle!" it made me giggle and built comfort with us.

And like one of the other psots said, be careful not to get into the friend zone - it is REALLY hard to get out of it once you're in it! A good way to do this is to always remain a little mysterious and be interested in what she has to say but not tooo interested if you know what I mean? Try and talk about fun light hearted stuff

Hope this helps a bit - good luck!

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Okay, so we're going to a techno club, not exactly what I was planning.
Since I don't reallly know how to dance to techno, I'd imagine this entire night is just going to be us to hanging out, and talking.

Gosh, I'm kind of nervous. @.@

Tips:
*have fun
*smile
*hold her hand

Following this things will be fine.

Lame! So she bailed of course at the last minute. She said she was tired from Summer classes and didn't really feel like going out.

I responded in a mediocre way saying, ' thats okay, but you owe me lunch'.

what should I have said, and what should I say afterwards?

I was thinking about not bother talking to her for a week or so


I'm still going to the lounge of course, maybe I'll find another girl. :p

What you guys think? I'm pretty busy this next week.. so I'll give her a week, and text her again?

Man I have been in your position more than once so plz read and listen up. From NOW to your Day 2 with this girl just go on with your life. You kinda made a mistake by asking her out twice now in her mind you may look needy. On the other hand she is going through emotional issues and she has discussed them with you. Your at a cusp between friend zone and potential lover and your most likely headed towards friend zone. You said that school keeps yo extremely busy well focus on school for a week, on that friday or saturday hit her up between (4 and 7pm) and tell her you and your boys are going to an awsome party tonight. If she goes cool if not it makes you look better because she may wonder what you are up to so now you have a reason NOT to answer her next call (if she calls you again that day). You want to be unpredictable in everything that you do. Don't leave any voicemail messages...yet if she doesn't answer your call from the time you call to the end of the NEXT week it is a NO GO. To make a long story short and to also reiterate we have ALL been in your position if you truely want a Day 2 with this girl you have to NOT GIVE A FUCK because you are the alpha male and you DO HAVE OTHER OPTIONS! The only thing stopping you from making this happen is YOUR phone game and you should probably study phone game because that is what kills most Day 2's from happening, that and your initial impression which you do not have to worry about. In the event you do Day 2 this girl make it a 3 hour date and utilize kino the entire time during the date take her to several different spots places she has NEVER gone with a guy before. You should be able to escalate from there and the rest is up to you. Best of luck!

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