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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2010 10:56 pm 
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Yes you read it you cannot unread it.

This is another one of those, this is how you progress posts. I frankly think that they help but only if you are strong enough to read them through and really think about what they are trying to tell you.

Only a fraction of the people here are gonna understand it. Most of you will immediately throw up your shields. Interestingly enough this is what this post is all about.

Pride, the thing holding you back.

But hey, isnt pride a good thing? Yes it is but not when it goes out of hand. Not when it limits your options.

Star Wars quote: I will do what I must Obi-Wan.

This quote is one I especially like. This old Jedi master is ready to go to any length in order to fulfill his goal. Even at the expense of personal comfort.

I just recently wrote a post about how PUAs progress. I myself find it interesting. In connection to this I was on the chat the other day and discussed this very topic. It stuck me that there is one thing that more than anything else holds people back. Your number one worst enemy.

I will call it pride in lack of a better name.

It isnt just pride. It is the desperate attempt to cling to your mantras. The parts of your personality that defines you. The part you are proud of. The part that you are so afraid to lose.
Most of us define ourselves as good people for example. What if, we were forced to see ourselves as bad people? That would hurt. So we go to ridiculus lengths to block out all proof that we might in fact be bad people. All the signs are there but we choose to not believe them.
In fact, I will take another example. I have a friend. He is gay. Before he came out, he was a little insecure jerk. He denied it for like 5 years. All the signs were there and everybody else knew that he was gay. (Yes more then kissing a guy.) It was obvious. But he himself didnt want to believe it. When he finally accepted it, he became a completely new person. He grew in strength and confidence.

So what was holding him back? Pride.

Now Im not calling anyone gay. Clear? Good.

The thing that made me write this post was the realization that pride keeps a lot of people from achieving their full potential. From developing true inner game.

The forum is full of posts on how to become more alpha and how to act cooler and all these affirmations you have to go through. You are the man, you are the best etc etc. Yes, they bring you up to a certain level but there is a limit. When you reach the limit where you dont progress it is time to start a new strategy and this is what people cannot do.
And why is that?
Because we are so used to push forward that going backwards feel bad. The answer to this question is actually that you have to reverse the technique you just used to build yourself up.

The people I have talked to have all said that: Hey I have really strong inner game, I know exactly who I am, I am a very strong person, I dont have any insecurities.
This is where they fail.

After talking to them for a few minutes I realize that they have no idea. They have not even begun to grasp the concept of inner game. They have read some posts and done some affirmations but behind it all, nothing has changed.
They arent using even 1% of their true potential. Its there but it needs to be awoken.

Why do these people insist on them being a strong person and having great inner game? 2 main reasons:

1. Inner game is hard, painful in some cases and take more effort than outer game.

2. This is the thing we protect the most, the illusion of being strong persons. Nobody wants to accept that he is weak, it is a failure. Nobody wants to even see that he is weak. Then he tries to tell everybody and himself that he is strong. So strong that he doesnt need to work on his inner game and thus dont have to face his insecurities.

What does these two have in common? Pride.

See it now eh? Pride in our own strength. Pride that protects us from the ugly truth.

If some of you wanna stay at this level, fine by me. I myself couldnt handle it. I had to go beyond. And man, it was worth it. Im still not at my full potential, I too am merely a student. But I can contribute with what I have learned.
If you wanna go beyond this, buckle your seatbelts, we are going for a ride.

First thing you have to do is to realize that you arent perfect. Yeah, everybody says it but nobody actually believes it. Thats just something we say to be politically correct.

Then we need to be prepared to sacrifice the thing we hold dearest. Our pride. Realize that it is holding us back, it is the enemy.

This takes strong willpower. This is why I am not blasting the other posts about affirmations and stuff. They are needed as well. You need to have a decent amount of strength to pull this off.

You need to see yourselves for what you really are. You need to accept that you have insecurities, accept that you need to work on it.

Accept for example that being an arrogant prick who thinks that he is the shit and everybody else are idiots, is NOT inner game. Thats just the start. That is like buying a black belt and believe that you know karate.

Basically you need to accept that you freaking suck! At least in some respects. This is what I did. I took on many of my darkest secrets and faced them. I hit rock bottom. Threw everything I took for granted out the window and started over. I could build myself up from the bottom.

This wasnt easy, but worth it.

I said many because Im not even close to be done yet. Real strength is to know that you are weak.

If you see yourself as strong and dont need to work on your inner game, then there is nowhere to start, in your own eyes you are perfect, there is nothing to be done. But, deep down inside, you know that it isnt true right. So get ready to bettle your demons.

So bottom line.

Accept that you arent as strong as you think you are. Accept that your weaknesses are protected by your foolish pride. Rid yourself of your pride and be prepared to attact even the very things that you hold most dear. Your inner strength, your beliefs. You have insecurities, deal with it! You cannot build anything if you believe that you are the shit. Clear a path for your inner game.

Forget pride, you cannot afford to have it.

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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2010 11:09 pm 
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Great post, totally agree. I can think of real life examples right now of PUAs who I know who would be amazing if they let go of their pride.

It's partly acknowledging how good or bad you are and being OK with that. And at the same time realising that there is no such thing as a static sense of 'good' or 'bad'. Such a value system imprisons you.

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Another great post Ezo, for everyone. This should be a concept used in life in general, not just pickup obviously.

EGO + Pride definitely = fail.

I hope people read this post.

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I do agree but.. you need to build some sort of pride in order to fight it, there are enough people who go overboard with this "I'm not good enough, I know I'm shit whatever" thing, sometimes it's just an excuse "I'm protected' even if you'll tell me I suck, coz I said it first"

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I do agree but.. you need to build some sort of pride in order to fight it, there are enough people who go overboard with this "I'm not good enough, I know I'm shit whatever" thing, sometimes it's just an excuse "I'm protected' even if you'll tell me I suck, coz I said it first"
True, they're people who often feel sorry for theirselves, instead of doing so, they should dust them self off and try again.


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Agreed, though I would call ego what you call pride, but the arguments are the same.

BTW I like your black belt analogy. What I like most about it, is that once you reach the black belt of a martial art you realis that the conception that you'll be 'a master' when reaching black belt is totaly skewed. You know enough to get by when you get a black belt mastery and real proficiency comes much later. But it's only by actually geting there that you realise just how much you still have to go.

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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 11:20 pm 
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EZO

Would you not also say (An englishmans sense of fair play) and upbringing etc.


Yes i to agree with you to a point.

My own damn chivary wears me out at times.

I suppose i behave a certain way because i am a gentleman and if i did not then i would cease to be so!

But do i wish to be a pua master due to lack of pride or not.

Pride may be linked to power. And only when you give it up or give it to others you gain TRUE power.


................ so yes Pride............. it does get in the way.

But having no pride.... hrrmm.

Having no pride in your appearance etc... wait, you are not talking about that..

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Now you are talking about two different things.

This may seem like some shit that I just say to sound wise and crap but I truly believe it.

People try to hard in the same direction. They push and push and push! Forwards forwards forwards. That blinds them to the other solutions, maybe the path upwards isnt to climb the outside of the house, maybe you go down two floors and take the elevator.

I wrote a long post about the difference between a gentleman and a loser a while ago, cant remember the name...

Being a gentleman is not a bad thing. But it becomes bad if you do it because you cannot let it go, because you think that it is the only choice.

A loser behaves like a gentleman because he has no other choice. He has no way of attracting a woman so he seizes the only thing he can think of, giving her his power. Giving her stuff and generally making life good for her. He goes out of his way to help her and often at his own expense. He does this even though he hasnt recieved anything yet. He does it for the chance that she might eventually like him.

A true gentleman doesnt do it for these reasons. He has a choice. He has the power. He is the man. He is merely giving her permission to help herself to the power he isnt using for the moment. Not at his own expence, that is.

When did chivalry appear? In a time when all the power was held by men. Women were more or less worthless. She had to take whatever she could get. A gentleman was the best option. Luckily, we have left such times behind. Women are strong now, equal to men. (At least where I come from.)

The women of that time probably didnt feel attracted to the stableboy holding the door for her. She was attracted to the knight in shining armour sparing her a second glance. See, even in these times women didnt fall for losers just because they were gentlemen.

No matter what your mother told you. The rules she told you ONLY applies to high value men. If you are a low level man, no amount of chivalry will get you anywhere.

So the point is, first become the knight, then choose to be the gentleman.

Fair play... Yes, I am all for fair play. But thats because I am powerful enough to win anyway. Plus it gives me little satisfaction to cheat. But if I cannot win in another way, I sure will play foul. Luckily I very very rarely have to. This comes from gaining true power. Which you do by searching alternative ways of growing. You need to look even in the scariest places of your mind, where your most embarrasing parst are. Thats where you will find the door.

I too sought to be a master. Always did. This was my dream, I did affirmations, I practiced so much that I spent 5 of seven days a week in field. I used most of my time on studying pickup, I gained insane amounts of knowledge. Did that help me, yes, to a certain point. But something was still holding me back, myself. It wasnt until I stopped identifying myself with the ultimate PUA that I was set free. I freed my mind. I stopped caring about being a PUA. I am what I am. Before I would pride myself in calling myself a PUA, I wanted people to recognize my skills and shit. Now I dont care. Yes, I am a PUA, I have skill. But this is not how I see myself. I am me. As soon as I stopped defining myself after a flawed ideal, I could outgrow that ideal.

My PUA had become like your gentleman. Something you have to outgrow.
Now, When I no longer care about being a PUA, I can look at myself and say. Ok, I am doing things that a PUA does, I meet the description of a PUA. I must be a PUA. I accept that. But I dont try to be one, I could also be something else, I just choose to be one.

Just like you can choose to act like gentleman, when you have realized that you dont have to.

As for upbringing.

I spend the last two years unlearning what my mother had taught me. It was flawed, it was not for me. It didnt work for me. Then I started growing. I grew and I became powerful. Now I realize that my mother was right in many things. It all makes sense now. Her advice were sound. The only problem was that I wasnt ready. I wasnt strong enough to use it. The advice was given to the man she saw me as. A great man, a wonderful boy. And to her I was. You are to your mother as well, and to everybody who knows you. But people around us dont see it. Friends and family fail to see that we are weak. They give us advice based on us being in control, a real alpha male. Because in their world, only alpha males count. They give us advice that they would give alpha males in their world, as they would reshape them if they could. But they dont give us the power we need to use the advice.

Forget what you have been raised to believe and retake it when you are ready. This is the way that worked for me. I am not talking teenage revolt here. Simply, take the things that makes you feel safe and trash them. (Mental things that is.) Learn to feel safe without them, go darkside and go back to the light. Then reinstall those programs.

Your upbringing was meant to keep the beast within under control. Thats counterproductive if the beast is a little scared puppy.

Hope this helped...

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first, it doesn't need to be said this a great post Ezo, bravo

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I feel and after reading and thinking about what you wrote, I can definety relate to
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I used most of my time on studying pickup, I gained insane amounts of knowledge. Did that help me, yes, to a certain point. But something was still holding me back, myself
and it might or might not be pride holding me back apart from myself but I WANT TO BREAK THIS I WANT OUT OF THESE CUFFS.
apart from soul searching for breaking pride which I feel isn't gonna be a walk in the park
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It isnt just pride. It is the desperate attempt to cling to your mantras. The parts of your personality that defines you. The part you are proud of. The part that you are so afraid to lose.
how are you supposed to drop such a thing as this ? something that for the most part, holds us thogether ? I'm not afraid of the challenge its just confusing...

btw, now I see and understand why you kissed a man in that situation you were in and tip my hat to your inner game.


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how are you supposed to drop such a thing as this ? something that for the most part, holds us thogether ? I'm not afraid of the challenge its just confusing...
You need to realize that it isnt actually what defines you. You are something else. You are among other things your moral standards, your beliefs on what is right and wrong. They can be changed too but now we are talking your core values.

You can always hold on to something, you can still know who you are even if you challenge everything you believe in.

When we let go is when we see ourselves for the first time...
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btw, now I see and understand why you kissed a man in that situation you were in and tip my hat to your inner game.
LOL!!! Ha ha, I love you guys! I made a difference! :)

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Ezo

Thanks for your reply.
It has addressed many of my concerns that have popped in my mind lately.

You have mentioned many points that i can relate to.

It is about time to finally unleash myself from this straight jacket of Chivalry and pride.

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I didn't read the whole thing. But i find this very legit. Things hold you back in the past and sometimes its hard to forget them. thanks this post was very useful : )

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didn't read the whole thing.
You gotta start reading peoples posts.

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I've read it a few times over and over, such a good and true post Ezo.

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