One quaranteed "shit" test is when a HB is asking your age.
I mean i have runned into this so many times and they always feel dissapointed if you tell them the truth. I mean 25 year girls and olders are usually asking this from me ( eventough im not a baby face lol ). Last week didnt make any exceptions when my AFC friend didnt believe me while he was chatting with an older girl.

Advice:
If they do ask you this question, you need to keep your solid dominant frame and respond something like " old enough to play with you "and throw a gentle grin.
The reason why they ask this is because they want someone who can take care of them and someone who they have to babysit.
So if you seem like a young guy than you need to keep your dominant mind set when dealing with older women.

[ Johnny B ]

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Eh, the first one is easy too!

You dont need a witty reply, just the feeling that you dont freaking care about shit tests.

HB: You can only get one, which one is prettiest?

PUA: Interesting, that comment goes well with my pet crocodile Bob.

PUA: Why would I want that?

PUA: And you would consider yourself such a beauty, get her girls!

Whatever, as long as you dont take her seriously you can come up with totally unrelated crap.

Is it only me or do none of those make sense?

i don't mean to be a dick about it, but i read them four times and I can only begin to make sense of the third one.

I think the easiest thing, when you and the girl are around the same age, just ask her "how old do you think i am?"

whatever she says, even if she tries to offend you, she's playing your game. you can tease her about her answer while not giving her your actual age.

and about the older women thing: if we're talking about women 10 years older than you, i think the whole idea is that they like that you're young and fresh. older women have been around the block and know the deal. case by case though, of course.

what about if they say 'okay it was nice to meet you' when you're still not done with them ?

Exactly! That is the point! It does not have to make any sense! Thats how you pass a shit test! You dont even give her a serious answer!

The most recent one I ran into was: "I'm an Aries, you're a Scorpio. We'd never go together."

I was embarassed as hell when I had no come back for that.

When I was born the moon was in the third house aaaaaaand you just thought I was serious... Nope we will not fit together...

im new to it too man, but maybe you should have negged her when you had the chance, it would have brought her guard down

There is too little info to say what you did wrong. Even with all the quotes it would be difficult since most of our communication is non verbal and subconscious.

What shines through your story though is that you were nervous and didnt know where to go after the opener. Yes, you had a game with the cow and milk. That didnt work out and you had expected it to, thats where you got nervous and ran out of material. I mean if it would have worked and she would have clapped her hands in wonder like she was supposed to do, that would have been fine.

Anyways. Forget the neg for now. You dont have to stick with a script. Negging can be useful but is normally not necessary. The sweaty hands neg is a bit hard, more subtle would do it.

The optimal thing to do is to keep a superior mindset (thats not the same as acting like a jerk) you have to believe that you are of higher value. And if you dont truly believe it, dont bother trying to seem like you think so, they can smell that. If you do have this mindset though you can just improvise.

But I guess that you are not all the way there yet (dont worry you will be). The thing we do while we practice is using routines. That way you dont run out of things to say. If you dont feel comfortable to improvise then make sure that you have enough material to last for a conversation.

You need an opener, a backstory. You need an ability to flufftalk ("that reminds me..." is your friend here). You need a couple of DHV stories. Find them here or in the literature. And you can use game or trick if you want. My advice is to practice cold reading, that is something I do when I have nothing else to do. It opens up conversation again and sounds cool. Be sure to multiple thread which reduces the chance that you get that annoying silence... ... ... Were were we, yes, prepare for a conversation of about at least 15 minutes. Maybe you wont need it and maybe you will. She should talk as well you know. I used to have a little black book in which I kept my favourite routines, I just rehearsed before I went into the set and it all went well.

Wow, it was a long time since I talked so much Mystery method, thatn you it was refreshing.

Eventually you should be able to calibrate the situation. You should be able to feel what you need to do without needing any routines at all. But that will come.

Good luck man!

Whew that's tough, best thing I'd recommend to do is improve your mentality and body language. If you talked and walked the way a confident alpha status male does, situations like this can be avoided.

Come up with your own opinion openers. Things that make sense and relate to you will come off as more natural and appealing. The reason why she might think you're talking so much is because it seems like you're rehearsing lines. It creates an awkward vibe and girls sense this.

Ditch the cow routine, people have heard this one plenty of times. One that works way better is the "I bet I can make you say black" or "5 questions" look them up.

Nice. Whenever a girl asks me how old I am I always say "take a guess". Much better than answering directly, as a matter of fact it's best to avoid giving any direct answer to a girl besides "no". Provides a good challenge and for reasons I can't explain, I truly believe girl's love hearing the word "no" even if they don't know it themselves.

"You talk too much" my would reply would be "You listen too little". Then body rock out/continue or eject depending on her response.

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I would go whit ezo's stuff.

the main thing that went wrong whit the number picking is that you had to pick a girl and by that "ask her" for here number...

you shoudn't even have to pick a girl in the first place.....
you should tell one to enter here digits...
You should be the price here not one girls number...

If someone reply's like the girl in your case
you probably dind't tell here to enter her digits but one of here friends....
and she is just jealous..

I go whit ezo's 3 reply

or..

PUA: god she is she alwais so picky when not being first...? how can you live like that
DO NOT LET HERE REPLY
Go directly to the next topic...




The age thing I alwais say:
HB: how old are you

PUA: 45 (or somthing)....
well ok guess?

HB: way lower than your age

PUA: wow I wish, then i would still be hitting on girls like that (point to someone young and sexy)

OR

HB: way older than your age

PUA: No I'm way more flexible, I can still do a salto

and blalala



yours,

Mike_D

The age one is quite fun actually.

HB: How old are you?
Ezo: 200 years old.
HB: Ha ha, yeah right, you are a loser, whatever, bla bla.
Ezo: Yeah, actually I wanst being honest with you, Im really 300 but I like to tell people that Im a bit younger just to get into their panties.