Guys listen up,another eye-opening post.

I was chatting to a girl last night(she'd called)for over 50 min.(I'd just # closed her days prior).

The thing is,in the Caribbean,most of the cell phone arrangements are pre-paid,where you actually buy the amount of minutes that you want($50 worth of talk time,etc).

Anyway,after talking for over 50 min.(burning up her minutes),I said to her,"Well,Ms. Smart ass,I really don't want you to burn any more min. so we'll talk later-plus I have things to do".

Now,besides me not wanting to talk longer,I tried using a moral excuse for us to hang up:You really shouldnt burn your pre-paid minutes. What if there's an emergency and you have no min. to call anyone"?

[Realizations]After we hung up,I sid to myself,she was actually investing in me or in the chat to the point that she burned up her minutes. Morally,I souldnt let her do it but in pick-up,let her ass do it. Let her invest!!!

The more a woman(even man) invest(monetaily,emotionally,whatever)in the other,the more compliant she will be. She would not want to let go so easily opposed to if she'd never invested anything.

I mean,its fucking common knowledge in the seduction community that the 1 who invests more will be more attached.

So if a girl is willing to call you 50 times per day(great IOI-lol),burn her minutes on you,etc. Let her do it!!!! The more she invests,the smoother the pick-up will be for you;less LMR,less ASD,less shit test,less flaking!!!

If the target hasn't invest even a phone call to you,why the hell would she not flake on you on a day 2 or 3? Let her pay for dinner,the cab,drinks-even buy your buddy drinks(lol)!!! This can be done also on an instant date for the SNL(same night lay-1 nighter).

I want some feed bacc guys. Is this bullshit?[/b]

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Sounds good except I can think of a caveat. I had a very open relationship with one of my latest FWBs, to the point of discussing pickup etc. She was a very smart, mature, level headed girl, except she and all her girl friends do one weird thing to their dates. They are all quite successful and independent, and will all offer to pay for the first date. She admitted it was a trick and any guys that took them up on it would get cut...

I think that was the only immature thing I ever heard out of her so I tried to explain it wasn't a big deal and her friends assigned way too much importance to such a silly detail. She understood to some extent but it shows there are a bunch of girls out there that have weird fabricated criteria that you could lynch yourself on.

here is the weirdist one i ever heard of----and i heard this 3 years ago at a wedding from an inlaw----she and her friends have this test----guy asks one of them out---girl orders the most expensive food and drinks possible---is extremely rude to guy---looks everywhere but at him ,shows boredom for anything he says and generally acts as bitchy as possible----if he puts up with it and calls her again--hes in and she is nice to him

I tried to explain to said girl that most guys would never want to see that girl as long as he lives

this girl was still convinced it was a good test

you practically stole this off Adom Lyon's website >.>... but yes.. getting her to invest in you is a good thing. Just remember to reward too sometimes.

Great imput and feed bacc guys on similar examples.

Hey Jeffl I never claimed it was my theory(letting her invest). I did admit that I got the concept from an official dating coach's article but I couldn't remember his name. I usually copied the article(in my notebook by hand-lol)but exclude the name of the authors. Ok,much props to Adam Lyons for that.

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good post. I think a lot of people forget to do this, myself included, and this could be a solution to girls who flake a lot.

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So fellaz,as I said in my above post,I did admit that this concept wasnt mines-I always give credit and take quotes from the big dogs-especially TD,Swingcat,Thundercat,Gambler,Jugler,D.Deangelo.Mehow.Mcmax...I can go on. I give credit whenever I post something from them.[/i]

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Emotional investment> Financial investment

Me buying her a car doesent mean that she couldnt dump me or vice versa. Its a same thing in a club. How much do you actually think she is wondering in that head of hers when she is buying you a drink if she really finds you attractive? She aint looking for to gain money because thats not the reason why she goest to a club with her friends. Also its not the reason why she wears a tight expensive mini skirt in the middle of the winter while waiting in line. She wants something from the club that she CANT buy and IMO that thing is a guy who can satisfye her emotional and sexual needs. Someone who can shock her emotionally in a deeper level by showing that this world aint that grey after all. Someone who can eliminate that boring routined workingday. Sure, money can tie you up in some level but when you really think about it, all those meaninfull deeper relationships are based on emotional " capital "and not financial. For example take a glance at the relationship between you and your best friend. How much you actually think about your phone bill when calling her/ him or your bank account when you first met him/ her in your childhood?


Emotional investment:
All those experiences you went through together, all those secrets you two told to each other, all those fears and dreams you shared and all those future images which both of you had created in your head concerning " us " are the things that really tie people together, not the money.

Also, IMO this investment thing should be seen as its in a real business life. You dont invest ( mentally/ emotionally or financially ) to a corporation if the firm aint giving you back some profit which matches with the risk and future expectations. So, the reason why you invest to something/ someone is because you want to gain something back ( Emotional satisfaction or money ). So if you want HER to invest to YOU, you need to show her WHY she should do it. Basically this means that a good way to get her emotionally open is by you starting to share somet stuff related to your own life ( what ever you want to talk about or know about her ) and than asking guestions from her that can be associated to that topic. Dont make the mistake by only expecting to gain something from her and not giving anything back. If so, than she will find another guy ( company ) who can measure up to what she´s investing and expecting to receive back.

IF YOU ASK ME, THAN:

1) Keep the " investment " relationship balanced and focus on those emotional things that satisfies both of you instead of money.

2) Making her spend money to you or vice versa aint anything that would benefit your game when dealing with the club scene. Focus on more important things such as creating comfort and rapport.

[ Johnny B ]

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Johnny,you'r a damn good genius. You should write a post on that. Hope Jeffl doesnt crucify you like they're doing me on this post(lol).

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Thanks buddy.
I see if i have the will to turn this into a post tomorrow.

[ Johnny B ]

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