So, one of my "new years resoloution" will be writing more stuff on this forum. Taking you guys (willing to join me) out there in the field, getting myself beyond my commitment issues!

But hence thats enough about me.

I'm writing this post about Bastard PUA's guys who have a great game if you take pickup by the no of f-close you have. They will score great, have amount of virgy's they hit and once the girl asks them for some commitment they'll leave them cold.

They forget all about their ethics, the stuff being told by her moms and dads.

So now we go back to the point what created the Bastard PUA:
From my conclussion this would have been caused by;
1. Been majorly rejected in the past
2. Feeling none relation whatsoever to the girl -> they dont have any physical connection towards the other human being.
3. They've got a copy of a book i didnt get? -> I think i'm 99% sure i've read common material as the guys whom became Bastard PUA's but, what made them different then myself.... what did i miss?

For what its worth, for all the girls out there becoming victomised by a "Bastard PUA" they will loose interest in life, they will be hurt.

One thing they could have learned from uncle Ross Jeffries is: "Leave them better than you found them" which would have prevented it upfront.

What can we, the community do against "Bastard PUA's", we can do fairly little besides protecting those whom we love the most.

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nice ost.

i agree with you, the one thing about pua is anyone can do it. there are always gonna be people who like to hurt people for fun.

i had a conversation with someone yesterday who knows a pua who fucked a virgin knowing he was using her for sex. then asked my friend when he should next hook up to "use her again" in his own words.

i think this is discusting behaviour and should not be tolerated. i would be happy to name and shame this pua but i did not get his name.

i dont know what else the community can do about thses people, apart from better communication between lairs, forums and triners in general. possibly an advanced criminal records check could be run by trainers to weed out the really sick people. but then again i dont actually see that happening.

Hank.

Players and PUAs do this, it's not what you read but their personality.

One thing I would suggest is to actually connect with the girl instead of just viewing her as another number or another shag, then you won't be so cold on her.

it's the things you've experienced in life... you don't understand because you didn't experience certain things ( relationships and fucked up relationships)

when your GF cheats you go crazy .. you will see woman as a object....
i really tried to break the ''womans=object'' habit but my second GF cheated as well. im always nice to my Gfs but once they got your finger they will dislocate your arm.

if you know a girl is a slut .. if you know she has alot of red flags .. if you know she can't be fully trusted you can shag her as long you tell her what your doing.
you have to tell her your not into a relationship before you sleep with her.

IW WON'T RUIN THE SEX ... i had girls that didn't want a BF .. i honestly told them after some kissing i was not interested in a relationship we still fucked tho. and if she doesn't want to fuck she isn''t that slutty ... you can semi-trust her.

and this time my GF broke up with me because of her past problems.. she's bit screwed in the head i guess.....

ethics of mom and dad ... well mom and dad were born 60 years ago .. when cheating and blowjobbing wasn't too common. values and social terms were alot different in that time , since the rise of new subcultures freedom of speech and rap music girls became more slutty than ever.

i must mension however most girls are dumb enough to do a one-night stand or fuck after 3 days.... even sex in 2 weeks is way too early.
some girls are just naieve .. they have to learn their lesson - you can't trust everyone. once those victimised girls have new cock they forgot the old problems with the PUA or bastard pua.

do you really think girls are the victim ? i had girls who fucked me ... they made me think they were my GF but at the end they just wanted to use me because they broke up with their EX-BF ( a gap to fill ). i had girls steal money from me , i had girls who just used me to get their self esteem back, i have met girls who only want to get pregnant. i have met girls who lied about STDs. i had girls who told me they are skilled in blowing cock but hey bit my dick.
i had a girl once .. she was soooo good in bed i was thinking how much cock she had in her holes.. it frightened me.

Woman are emotional creatures .. more emotional than men THAT's why woman are MORE fucked UP when they get unstable. woman have tendacies to take revenge/ hate / use you 4 times harder than men do because they experience a emotional rollercoaster.

when a girl dumps a guy the yguy often chase her for a few weeks or a few months max. But when you dump a girl ... she will chase you for months or years even when she got a new BF you can fuck her. Most Men are different

i once fucked a girl .... and dumped her next day, i was fucked up in my head that time - my ex-gf fucked me up in my head. i treated this girl very bad but she was stupid enough to have sex with me within 3 days - it isn't like im forcing her to have sex with me it's her choice . after i fucked her about 3 times i dumped her and she was mad at me''' i thought we had a relationship''

yeah right ... a relationship in 3 days .... i never told her i want a relationship in the first place and i never told her i didn't want one. she phoned me she felt bad .. i called her back and told her she could fuck me anytime she wants and if she want to talk she can call me. we did some insulting and never heard anything again..... yesterday i mailed her im sorry tho..... yesterday i mailed all the girls i have hurt

80 % didn't reply ... they're still mad or they got a new BF.
you know what the other 20 % said ? those said they were sorry because they treated me bad as well .....

the other 80 % don't want to say sorry or whatever ( including the cheating bitches) because they are fucking dumb .... pointing and blaming someone else is easy - just take a fucking look at yourself- GIRLS NEVER DO THAT ... when they break up they always drop the ball at you, it's always your fault and when it isn't your fault they create one for you so they can still blame you.

GIRLS NEVER take responsibility , otherwise they would feel slutty

so why do we get involved with scewed up girls.

1. the badboy image ... species attract same species .... you attract girls who are messed up. we are all messed up .. ''hey lets share our fucked up lives.''

2. oversexed .. can't keep dick or cunts into pants

3. fucking up inner game or a bad relationship created a hole in your life, we want to fill that hole up so we engage relationships way too fast.

4. low self esteem .. low confidence .. need to use someone for increased those traits.

number 1234 are all valid for the girls you attract , they are the same.

when we got a new GF we always say; ..'' hey this girl is great she's very handsome and she's nice''
''so how long do you know her ?''
''we know eachother 2 months we had sex the second week after i met her''

LOL

those girls ( 123) are like fastfood ... they are cheap they are easy and they don't give you any nutrition.... often they are too salt and you need to buy a drink as well ( tears from eyes )
you keep eating until your spleen dislocates and there along go your values.

when i talk to those girls i don't think '' hey im talking to a girl '' im thinking '' im talking to fucking fastfood '' once you let fastfood into your life they drain your energy and vitamins out of your body THEY don't add anything on long term.

once you realized that you got potential fastoof in your life, you :

1. avoid girls like those
2. fuck them and dump them
3. shit/slut test them like crazy until they are sick of you and dump your ass
4. your way too distant and to drawn back because you don't trust her - she dumps you or you dump her.

i can talk hours about woman especially the fucked up kind. to be honest there are no fucked up bastard pua's
either they :

1. became fucked up because they were treated liek shit by girls ( or into their life)
2. they have some mental disorder, autism
3 they can't have relationships and they need sex, if they fuck the girl they know she will be hurt but she will be more hurt if she got into a relationship.
second to be honest, im a fucked up sick in the mind asshole dude but at least i know this and i can correct myself.

an average relationship is about ( engaging into relatship. ) :

1. fucking up your life
2. adding something you already have but you just don't realize it
3. sexual needs
4. mistake and mix up the need of having a friend and the need of having a girlfriend
5. jealousy or social pressure, their ex got a new BF .. now he must have a new GF LOL
6. uncapable of self restrain and keeping friends
7 this counts for woman .... money .. financial needs.
8. the feeling to accomplish something because you didn't finish school
9. when you were young you were either raped or girls kicked your ass

if you can't trust someone then don't donate your sperm... when you go to a spermdonatingbank you want a 100% guarantee you receive money for donating. do the same when you meet new girls.

look how some woman eye fuck you.. when im in the club i get eye fucked by several woman they eye fuck you because they want something from you.
it's like lighting a letter but still sliding it in the mailbox - just realize you burn your fingers if you open that envelope - of course you can lick and rip-off the stamp and split.

WOMAN aren't victim ... if a woman lie to the police she got raped everyone will believe her , the didn't do anything but they all beleive her.
same with divorcing and sharing money when you divorce, woman got more power they got more custody over the kids.

woman just have more power and social status nowdays , 60 years ago it was the opposite and men provided money.
well the one who holds more power is likely to get hurt harder when shit hits the fan, woman think they are the shit.

you know why a woman sticks loyal to you in a relationship ?

because you have to ask the questions that will allow her to run her fucking life, in the end they are all low in confidence otherwise they wouldn't take cock. you have to make her feel good and thats means you have to adjust.

and they have a unconsious repication agenda .. that's why they put on their short skirts and their make up. they go out to meet new guys and to get fucked , their vaginas aren't more important than our cocks - we want the same thing ''eachother''

he is dumb enough to fuck her , and she is dumb enough to get fucked ASAP.
you see .. both are dumb...

so many girls are fucked up.. im still searching for some love / the right one ( nobody is perfect )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_sl_bj4z0A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zQG2l9bhvg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VJY97l0 ... re=related

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Lode, care to give us a short summary of that all?

tl;dr


anyway, commitment doesn't have to be an issue if you state your intent before having sex with girls.

ok .. summary : woman are messed up and naieve and pua bastards are the victims of previous relationships.

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Actually I was amazed by my ex-girlfriend who blamed herself when we broke up, that she would have been more into the relationship if she didn't start one with me right after breaking up with her ex.

While she had a few reasons to break up with me as well.

there ya go .... one girl that wants to fill her gap in her life... purely egocentric reasons. she could try harder to keep the relationship but she didn't , it's always 2 people fuckni things up. chances are she just used you and feels guilty so she blames her relationship with her ex and not entirely herself - she blames it and not itself.

but yeah at least your girl acted mature tho ... luckily we still got good people around

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We're all egocentric.


Maybe you need to get over your ex before posting on the forum.

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Well we can all tell ourselves that we are victims of society but somehow, for me that doesnt cut a single tree. For what its worth we need to be responsible of every act we do. Some-a-day judgement day will come and i'll be the first one whom can be clear of the fact i didnt do any BAD things to the oposite sex.

What i'm saying basicly is; Once you can be true to yourself and still f*ck all the girls arround the globe because your feeling equally (both you + the female involved) your no where a bastard pua in my book. but a good example of a bastard pua is one as described by HM and we see more and more of these every day.

One thing i've observed in relationships, once in my life, once related to me, where two people fight, two are equally guilty.

Somehow karma can actually be a bitch for the Bastard Pua's out there, because there will come a time at which they find themselves empty and shalow.

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I have seen people getting blinded by the " succes " when they first start seeing the results. Its sad and its even sadder when the guy is one of your friends. Shouting out, calling girls whores, threating them like broken chinese toys, having no respect toward anyone and most of all loosing their morals and ethics what they used stand for ( in real life )... They loose the perspective and the point behind all this PUA stuff because their ego is controlling the way they see the world.
You getting 300 SNLs a year doesent make you a happy person... Its you trying to fill that empty whole with a one moment satisfaction ever realizing that the happiness is in you and not in the pussy. You trying to improve yourself by kicking your own ass out of the comfort zone and than learning something new about yourself is something that makes you one with yourself. Widering your eye sight from that narrow comfort zone creates an opportunity for you to discover and experience something new that you never thought was possible. This is something that can benefit the quality of your future life by making you a better person.
THis whole PUA thing should IMO be a journey to your inner self to see what are the weakest links in your chain and than exploring that chain while fixing those weak links. Its about knowing the real YOU better and fixing those things that disturbe your life. Getting laid should be something extra in that journey of yours while becomming a more better person who is starting to understand what are his goals and purpose in this life.

“Knowing others is intelligence; knowing yourself is true wisdom. Mastering others is strength; mastering yourself is true power.”

[ Johnny B ]

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getting laid is the least important .. for me it's being happy with myself.
i agree

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Well of course the goal of PU is different for everyone. Leaving them better than how you found them is a very good rule, Style and Mystery told them as well.

Doing a virgin... well if it makes her happy sure go ahead: just be sure to make your intentions clear so she wont have any false hope.

But just like any weapon, mothod or trick: there are people using them for the good, and others use them to hurt people. It sucks but it's part of it.

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Hi, I need your female opinion on this...

For starters all our goals are different, this is a good thing.
Style & Mystery got it from Ross, its even stated in "The Game"
Even if your not doing a virgy making your intentions clear, would cause happier self + woman
Well sometimes i love protecting girls against the guys whom are assholes straight up. Easy to cause a cockblock for those .
There you arent egocentric. Offcourse i'm doing it to HV myself for the other babes arround but .

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Woah Lodewijkp...That wall of text said a whole lot of crazy to me...Maybe you should lay off doing stuff with women and get your head on straight...or just start by not blaming them for everything.

There are douches, there are sluts, there are shy girls and there are pathetic nice guys.

I had a friend say to me "You are everything that has happened to you until the present moment". This is true. Everything you are is because something created your individual bits of personality.

Lode, your whining about women is undone because those crazy girls are just as much victims as douchebag PUAs are victims of their respective lives.

The problem occurs when you want to blame SOME things on your past, but keep other things as personal success. If you meet a douchebag, and say "He's had a past that reasons that", you should also look at a successful person and give just as much credit to his life instead of him.

You can blame trust issues on a past girlfriend, but you won't blame musical skill on a past reasoning as well? Nah, that was all you, is that it? No, you take all or none of the responsibility. It's not your fault you have trust issues, it's also through no action of your own that you have skills or talents, because something in your past created the reasoning for being or doing that as well.

Douchebag PUAs are easy to cockblock, and you can't stop them all, just the ones in your immediate vicinity and immediate circle of friends. If you want to feel sorry for them about their past, you should also feel as though you've done nothing to become what you are today. It's only fair. And as far as stopping the problem of douchebag PUAs, keep in mind you can't stop all the racists, the bigots, the egotistical people...you just can't run the world. (that doesn't mean you shouldn't try.)

For the record, I would like you to count off all the girl serial killers, murderers, rapists, and arsonists, and then count up all the guys. Once you've done this, you come back and tell me girls are crazier than guys.