So this girl I was talking to gave me multiple IOI's, there was slow but steady Kino escalation.

Then I did this mystery kiss close:

*Looks deep into her eyes, smiles*
Would you like to kiss me?

She replies:

=), Ur such a dork. and moves away.

I didnt think the "it just looked like you had something on your mind" would work well.

Tips?

Thanks,

-Sil3nt.

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i didnt fucking get it? Didnt you kiss her right after that? LOL

Im pretty sure the reply still would of been fine. And then you could off tried a different k-close.

Its just a case of your delivery, perhaps you were'nt in an intermate enough place or there was'nt enough kino etcetc

The fact of the matter is she didnt shut you out so your all good, dont bail too early

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I personally never ask a girls if she wants to kiss me ( Secure man dont ask, he acts! He leads and the girl follows! Be alpha not Beta).
Instead I:
1) I pull her near before i make my move ( so i dont have to " dive " for the kiss )
2) I put my another hand behind her lower back and smell her hair
3) I pull back from smelling her hair and saying that her hair smells good
4) I start looking at her lips, than back to her eyes and than back to the lips and make my move while i " draw " circles with my another hand at her lower back ( the phase 1 )
A) When you smell her hair, you can observe her reaction concerning you comin closer to her. If she seems to pull away than she may not be ready for kiss. Than build up more kino so she gets used to you touching her. On the otherhand, if she lets you smell her hair and seems find with it than there is a bigger chance that she allows you to kiss.
B) Why the circles? I found myself doing this before i found out the ross jeffreys video about the same thing him saying that there is a spot ( energy spot ) in lower back which " stimulates " her.

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Ask girl for kiss? It sucks!

First thing - Your target must know your body. How? You have to touch her.

for example:
arm -> shoulder -> hair (do it naturaly)

When I'm talking with girl, I'm touching her immediately. It's really important.
During a talk make your touch more directly (like in example).

When you got thinking like "Should I kiss her?" dont fu*king ask her like that ! Really. That Mystery's routine really sucks. There's a better way.

You don't know should you kiss her? Do it now!

I'm not the biggest Mystery buff, but his techniques seem to be about saving face, and turing pickup into an algorithm. I think this must be very effective for some, particularly those with confidence issues.

Mystery's kiss-close is essentially a way to hedge your bets. Going in for a kiss before a girl is ready can be potentially fatal to the relationship, but its not necessarily a deal-breaker.

My understanding is that after you ask, if she gives you a "no", then you play it as if she was giving you a weird look, and you were smiling because she was looking at you funny.

I might respond with something like "Because you kind of looked like you wanted to eat my nose a second ago". "You do know I'm not a ginger bread man, Hannibal Lector".

She'll probably giggle or deny it, and they you continue to build up attraction, comfort and kino until you're ready to try again. I don't know that Mystery suggests after that, but knowing his work, there's definitely a follow up. When I have some time I'll take a second look at his mystery method dvd and see what I can come up with.

sounds great...Hello CLARICE!

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What's wrong with Mystery's kiss close ? If a girl is interested in you and you suddenly kiss her out of the blue, you might scare her away. If you ask and she says no, she will still stay talking to you and you just bought some extra time to try to kiss close a bit later when you attracted her more. The guy starting the thread tried to kiss close way to early if you ask me.

Yeah I kinda bailed lol. Made me look like a jack-ass.

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How long then would you advise staying with them before kiss closing?

I was with the girl a good hour, with mild Kino escalation, and multiple IOI'S.

Im not sure what I did wrong.

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That reminds me of Adam Lyons kiss routine.

Also Im not familiar with Jeffreys circle idea.

Would you kindly link me to it?

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I don't recommend canned lines, but it worked for me I landed a f-close after using this line. I figured i give one a shot, and I was surprised with the results. Maybe you didn't have as much tension and attraction built up as you thought you did....The girl has to look like she does 'have something on her mind.' I guess situationally for me I knew the girl wanted to kiss me, I just used the line to test it out. It worked...

I think the mild kino is the problem.

I know everyone is a hater but I LOVE that method. It's all in the delivery. You can't say it in the same way he says it. You have to say it like you're teasing her. It should be like a neg and kclose combo. You're picking on her a little bit by saying she looks like shes gonna "kiss you or something" and then if she says no you just shrug it off to reject her.

You could even say "good because I have a reputation to uphold." And as long as you're laughing the worst you can get out of it is finding out whether or not she's interested without EVER being rejected.

She won't even realize she rejected you because you never asked "is it alright if I kiss you?" Also it's still spitting game at her the whole time, so she might even want to kiss you after you say that if she didn't want to before. If you blow out that you "didn't say she could kiss you" or "you weren't interested in kissing her anyway," you can still show her that she doesn't have to be embarrassed about wanting to kiss you. And the best way to do that is kiss her. This is my personal choice of scenarios because you she will feel secure every time you kiss her. It's like anchoring her feeling of excitement with a kiss even more than any other kiss

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What works for me is this one:

You: "What would you say - how good do you kiss from 1 to 10?"

She: ...

You: "Let's find out!" and kiss her

Of course you don't do this out of the blue - she needs to be in the right mood, so some kino upfront is a must.

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