So I've been wondering about these "Values," and in my mind something clicked off, how do you raise and lower values of yourself or them? especially if your working with a wing, or from pure scratch. does having a certain level of value depend on the girl? I'm actually pretty confused about this. Insight please and thankss!

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Heya Bboy801!

Value is what increases your attractiveness. You can have pre-value and you can gain value. I'll give you some examples.

High Value:
Pre-selection = Girls like you
Abundance = You have the means to get what you want
Dominant = You are a leader, and people follow you.

Low Value:
Needy = Pretty much the opposite of abundance, you have to try to get the girl.
Un-confident = Pretty much the opposite of a leader-characteristic. You are afraid.

The best way to raise value is to tell stories. So-called "DHV Stories." However, this is just a small part of the game.

In order to get a girl you have to show most of the following terms:

Un-neediness = Willing to go away if they don't comply.
Leader = Be the man!
Confident = Not afraid.
Abundance = You don't need the girl, so if she doesn't comply you'll leave.
Pre-Selection = Girls like you, and you have them already in your life.
Well-Groomed = You have to take care of yourself.

Other value-giving things is being fun, intellectual etc. If you show these characteristics most girls will be delighted to talk to you!:)

- Exerio

Thanks Exerio,

So could Value work as being seen with groups as well? Say I chose to approach a girl who saw me with another group, would that somehow dent or set my value in any way? I mean of course taking in a thought of making that previous group I was with laughing then walking away or etc. Does it work out in turn or out of turn is basically my question now.

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Great question!

Your value will increase if you are in a group of interesting people. In most cases this is if you are with girls, but it also works if you are in the company of a celebrity or someone they already know from before-hand.

Another thing:

If you talk with a lot of people in the club and get back neutral or positive vibes they will increase your value. This is due to our nature of teaming up with a leader.

Now, ask yourself what the best way to be shown as a leader is without talking to someone?

If you say to go and be friendly and chatty with a lot of people you are on the right path. It shows that you are a social and friendly guy who enjoys talking with people, and in some cases they might even think that you are a celebrity for knowing such an amount of people!

- Exerio

So the moment you approach a group do you become the lower value guy because you need their opinion ?

I would imagine so PUAHitch, since you are asking them their opinion.

Thats kind of a hard catch. But I think I understand the concept of it more now.

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Nope. You become lower value if you worry too much and get nervous. Talking to people is something natural - if you don't make a big deal out of it, people also won't.
One of the bad things is that SOME of the so-called PUAs make a big deal out of everything. Think about it: If they want to talk to a girl they begin to analyze it - "What opener should I use? How to walk, talk and stand? Neg her? How to deal with the obstacles? What DHVs will I use then? Is my value lower?" and many other things. This way when they go and actually talk to her they're not there at all.
If you think how to make a good impression and "keep your value high" you will subcommunicate that you are trying hard to impress them. And even if you get your delivery perfect(which is really hard) you will not be in the moment and won't have fun at all. And if you're not having fun - it's hard to control your body language and everything else to keep the impression that you actually do have fun.
When a guy goes to a girl the girl doesn't think to herself: "Oh... another guy. Let's judje his value according to his chances of survival and replication and if it's lower than mine I will reject him.". They just get a feeling.
It's good to work on yourself and incorporate in your character some things that are considered "high value" - but not only when you're talking to girls. Just focus on having a good time with the girls. If you don't do something awful then they will probably like you. And think about this: Isn't it a demonstration of higher value to not actually try to demonstrate higher value?