What turns women on - a scientific analysis



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:05 pm 
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Here is a very interesting article I found. I'm posting an abbreviated excerpt, with the link below. Brackets are my own comments.

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She showed the short film [An image of Bonobo Chimps mating] to men and women, both straight and gay. She also showed them clips of heterosexual sex; male and female homosexual sex; a man masturbating; a woman masturbating; a chiselled man walking naked on a beach; and a well-toned woman doing callisthenics in the nude...
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The genitals of the volunteers were connected to plethysmographs — for the men, an apparatus that fits over the penis and gauges its swelling; for the women, a little plastic probe that sits in the vagina and, by bouncing light off the vagina walls, measures genital blood flow. An engorgement of blood spurs a lubricating process called vaginal transudation: the seeping of moisture through the walls. The participants were also given a keypad so they could rate how aroused they felt.

The men, on average, responded genitally in what Chivers terms “category specific” ways. Males who identified themselves as straight became aroused while gazing at heterosexual or lesbian sex and while watching the masturbating and exercising women. They were mostly unmoved when the screen displayed only men. Gay males were aroused in the opposite categorical pattern.[Guessing that means the same, except with women instead of men]

Any expectation that the footage of animal sex would speak to something primitive in the men seemed mistaken; neither straight nor gay men were stirred by watching the bonobos. And for the male participants, the subjective ratings on the keypad matched the readings of the plethysmograph. The men’s minds and genitals were in agreement.

All was different with the women. No matter what their self-proclaimed sexual orientation, the women showed, on the whole, strong and swift genital arousal when the screen offered men with men, women with women, and women with men. They responded objectively much more to the exercising woman than to the strolling man, and their blood flow rose quickly and markedly as they watched the apes, though to a lesser degree than during all the human scenes, except the footage of the ambling, strapping man. And with the women, especially the straight women, mind and genitals seemed scarcely to belong to the same person. During shots of lesbian coupling, heterosexual women claimed less excitement than their vaginas indicated; watching gay men, they reported a great deal less; and viewing heterosexual intercourse, they reported much more. Among the lesbian volunteers, the two readings converged when women appeared on the screen. But when the films featured only men, the lesbians reported less engagement than the plethysmograph recorded. Whether straight or gay, the women claimed almost no arousal whatsoever while staring at the bonobos.
It seems to me that women are turned on more by the act of sex, and the degree of sensuality (sexual tension) than the other person's body. I also want to add that, before we all jump up and down proclaiming women don't know what they really want, lets not confuse genital arousal with willingness. Chivers's theory is that female genitals lubricate in all sexual situations to avoid injury, for example in the case of rape.

Read the rest of the article, there is an interesting discussion on psychology. It mostly agrees with what our posters say. Another excerpt.
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Meana spoke broadly and not only about her dyspareunic patients when she said: “Female desire is not governed by the relational factors that we like to think rule women’s sexuality as opposed to men’s.’’ She finished a small qualitative study in the past year consisting of long interviews with 20 women in marriages that were sexually troubled. Although bad relationships often kill desire, she argued, good ones don’t guarantee it. The generally accepted therapeutic notion that for women, incubating intimacy leads to better sex is, said Meana, often misguided. “Really, women’s desire is not relational, it’s narcissistic,’’ she said. It is dominated by the yearning to be the object of erotic admiration and sexual need. Still on the subject of narcissism, she talked about research indicating that in comparison with men, women’s erotic fantasies centre less on giving pleasure and more on getting it. “When it comes to desire,” she added, “women may be far less relational than men.”

Like Chivers, Meana thinks of female sexuality as divided into two systems, but conceives of those systems in a different way to her colleague. On the one hand there is the drive of sheer lust; and on the other there is the impetus of value. For evolutionary and cultural reasons, she believes women might set a high value on the closeness and longevity of relationships: “But it’s wrong to think that because relationships are what women choose, they’re the primary source of women’s desire.”
link - http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life ... 802819.ece


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Wow,,, that's mind blowing shit. I just have no idea of how to put that information to good use.

I know one thing,,, women are way more open to watching pornagraphy than they are willing to admit. Maybe because it causes this unsolicited arousal?


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YES!

Finally, all those ape porn I've collected over the years will have some use! :P

I mean, this was quite a rather educational.

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It is important to remember, as Chi noted, that arousal and desire are not interchangeable. Human beings are animals with some biological systems that are more primitive than others. Nonetheless, we are "homo sapiens," the thinking man. This is why seduction includes comfort. You have to put a woman's conscious brain at ease with her primitive arousal.

I certainly don't think that this is evidence that women don't know what they want. Women's thinking brains have simply adapted more quickly to changing environmental circumstances. They recognize that there are factors far beyond what their sex drives recognize. Pregnancy has always been a personal risk to individual females. Biology drives them toward pregnancy, but conscious reasoning, the defining characteristic of modern humans, increases their caution.

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awesome post thank you

ps. the link is broken


I found an alternative site with the same article,

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/25/magaz ... =permalink

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Yeah Sexuality is one of the attraction switches.

It's been there for years in EVERYONE good's material, but it wasn't until Captain Jack and I started posting a gazillion LRs explaining how we were going sexual that it got accepted.

Don't be afraid to talk sex with women early on.

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wait a minute...

women are more turned on by the emotional rather than physical side of sex?????

this is ground breaking news!






i'm just messin with you. that article was actually pretty interesting.


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