hey fellaz
i have been to clubs many times, and now i m planning on quitting clubbing! its just waste of time and energy, girls are just in their "shields" and they just do not want to response and the music is fairly loud! its just getting frustrated now, should i try to explore the day game or what?!?

help me out guys!

thanks
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your doing something wrong if you are having no luck in clubs..

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You need to neg these bitches to disarm them and show some DHVs.
Don't act interested at all. Bring them into your world!

My only problem with clubs is the loud volume! Keeping 3 and 4 sets entertained and interested is hard if they can't hear you

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try game in bars... easier not having to compete with really loud music

it's not the clubs it's your game.

its funny how you complain that its not working, but don't actually give us an example of what happened...

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So instead of insulting your game, I'm going to try and actually help you out.

From what I gather, your problem is that the girls you are approaching in clubs are not being responsive. This can be caused by a variety of things, so I'll try to cover a few of the major ones.

First, you may want to consider taking a look at your image. Regardless of what many people will tell you, looks DO matter. It's your first impression, and sometimes, in a really loud club, you need to rely on having a good image. I'd say this is very likely your problem; the style you are portraying just doesn't appeal to the types of the girls that go to the clubs that you are going to. As far as recommendations go, I tend to steer clear of 'peacock' theory, and more towards the lesser known 'don't look like garbage' theory. I like to wear flashy, colourful shirts, and dull them down with either darks or lights (jackets, dress shirts, jeans, etc). But that's just me, everyone needs to develop their own style.

Also, I'd say watch your body language. In a club environment, body language is what women go on. If they can't hear what you're saying half the time, then you're body language had better be good. Try to stop yourself from pecking, fiddling with your hands, etc. If she says she can't hear you, tell her to come closer. If the loud music is really bothering you because you can't spit your routines, bring her to the dancefloor. I'm not sure why PUAS tend to avoid the dancefloor like the plague, but it really is a great tool.

Lastly, at the end of the night, nobody remembers your failures, but everybody remembers your successes. So stop taking it so seriously, and just remember to have some fun. You're in a club for crying out loud!

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Yes Yes and Yes Take Iceman's advise to heart.

I really want to help you but truth is my dancefloor/club game has really only improved in the last few months, I'm still not sure exactly where my success comes from.

But I would go as far to say as in clubs 95-99% of all your communication is through your body language alone... 9 times out of 10 you've probably had a girl's tongue down your throat before you've said anything to her (that's not to say your doing something wrong if you haven't).

What I would say is the most important thing though is your mindset and attitude. If you don't genuinely feel like you're having fun and that you are the hottest guy DANCING on the floor then the girls wont percieve you this way, and obviously if you're not percieved in this way you're not going to pull.

Out of interest, do you go to these clubs on your own or with friends? I always go with a few mates and have a good laugh on the dancefloor 'bustin' dodgey dance moves and stuff (I'm still not sure if it's the moves that pull or the fact I'm having a laugh ).

I would say it's not appearance looks in this case, but situational looks. If it looks like you're a really fun and cool guy, girls will be more open to you coming up to them. If you are sitting solo in the corner and it looks like you are having a bad time, they won't want you to come over and drag them down too. Sure, an attractive appearance is always a plus and it may get you opened or allow you to talk to girls, but you need the whole package, game included. If you can't have fun yourself, you won't be fun to be around.
Wearing flashy, colorful shirts is sort of peacocking, even if you don't intend it to be. A dress shirt or dark jeans won't "dull" it down but it will do the opposite and make the flashy shirt stand out against what ever else you are wearing. Also, I would say peacocking in a club isn't a bad way to go if the style fits your personality. Peacocking at 1:00pm at a bookstore or cafe is what I wouldn't do.

In fact, I think peacocking in club isn't a bad idea at all because, at least at my college, most guys there will wear a dress shirt or polo. I saw a average looking guy on Thursday at a club with a crazy mohawk (non-gelled) and he was wearing a black buttondown with trippy red and white designs all over it. He also had some stunner shades sitting atop his head and jeans torn to shreds. Not my idea of a good peacock, but he was also the most obnoxious dancer on the floor and he was having the time of his life by himself. The entire night, he had girls going up to him to dance.

The point is: in a club, actions and body language are your best means to peacock. The music can't drown out that routine either.

Listen there are a few points you need to think about.

1. How do women perceive you with in the first 3 seconds? wearing nice cloths alone will not make you look "cool". You need to give off a sens that you are cool....even if it means changing the way you talk, walk, w.e....for alot of men this can be very hard! because they have been loosers there whole life and dont know how to be "cool". Learn how to be the cool guy in the bar and I mean it!

2. Is your style actualy stylish or do you just think it is? learn what style is! and learn what style looks good on you....not every one can pull off a tight v-beck, or a pair of thick black classes....find a style that is stylish because beleve it or not women will judge you very harshly on how you dress! Go pick up GQ and if you still dont get it then go to a stylish store and get a women to help you pick shit out.

3. Are you being creepy? you need to know how to talk to women as If you are a friend....not a snack oil sales men. Women want a man who understand them, a man who turns them on....watch some with tom cruise, brad pitt ect....they will help you out.

honestly the first minute or two is crucial when talking to women! you dont need to be the best looking guy but if you look, and sound cool then women will let you in there circle....If you look and sound weak or nerdy then they wont.

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