Using Reciprocal Liking to Destroy AMOGs



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:52 pm 
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I just learned this in my psychology class. It's an effect called Reciprocal Liking.

From my lecture notes:
"Reciprocal Liking: An important predictor of our liking someone is if we believe that that person likes us.

This is an example of a self-fulfilling prophecy." (Courtesy of my professor Dr. Peter Lee.)

What he said next was:
"Next time someone says they don’t like you. Tell them 'Well actually, I quite like you'. Fucks them right over." (Best Psych class ever)

So perhaps this is psychological proof of a way to deal with AMOGs, tell them you like them. Not int eh drunken "Yer awesum!" sense, but in the "You are a pretty cool dude. We should hang out" sense.

What do you boys think?

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 5:24 pm 
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Yeah, love it.

I definately think it will work. I disagree on why it will work though - I don't think it will show that you like the AMOG.
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What he said next was:
"Next time someone says they don’t like you. Tell them 'Well actually, I quite like you'. Fucks them right over." (Best Psych class ever)
The reason for this is because he has just shown that he doesn't like you, clearly. No sane person is actually going to like him for that. So by responding with that canned line, not only is he not going to believe you anyway, but your body language and voice tonality (which accounts for 93% of what is to be communicated) will not be congruent with you liking him.

The reason why I DO think it will work, is because you are displaying a show of alpha-ness, dignity, class, respect and coolness. Mainly coolness. The AMOG will then respect you because you are friendworthy material. You bring value to him and the group. They just want more value. By telling him that you are doing two things - showing that you have value, and showing that you are not going to battle him with it. Thus he drops his guard.

Cool people, just like pikeys/tramps/plebs have their own 'code' of speaking, much of which is non-verbal. Just like girls have their own way of speaking. You either get it or you don't. Saying this is a cool thing to say, as stupid as this sounds, and typical AMOGs will respect you for it.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 4:32 am 
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Haha this seems almost too simple to be true but I can actually relate to this to quite some extent.

I've always prided myself on being able to say that I don't actually hate anybody (aside from the obvious sicko criminals etc) but I've never hidden the fact that there is actually one person that I genuinely detest. After reading this I can safely say that it does stem from the fact that I know they don't like me either.

I think I might look into this "reciprocal liking" it's grabbed my interest. My flat mate does psychology, she's going to "looove" me now when i demand a crash course in it :P


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 5:36 am 
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Dont be too enthusuiastic about it, because its fairly amateurish of you.

The reciprocal principle is based on the idea that a person is indebted towards a persons good deed.

If you do a favor for somebody, you expect him to return the favor someday. Its such an ingrained value in society that its hard to shake it off.

AFC behaviour is typical of only using this this. Buying lunch, being overly nice, being a doormat. Expecting vagina in return. They do it subconsciously.

But the principle can fail because as a technique of persuasion it is better used in combination of other tactics.

Now why do i know this? While i may fail at pickup as a layman, i understand the use of it on a professional level and the real and potential monetary value associated with it.

If you want to persuade an AMOG ( an unruly potential client) that you are on his side.( Because that line is totally gay. And a true alpha will simply respond to 'whoa that is totally gay) itll be more than that.

THe 'i like you' works if the person is neutral towards you beforehand. If he is aggresive, then you have to demonstrate that in some way you are similar to him, and by consistency he would stop unless he hates himself ( doubtful if hes alpha, they love themselves)

The quickest way to that is to adapt the same mannerism or discuss common activities.

Or through social proof, if youre a friend of one of them in the group, then call it in. A friend of a friend is a friend. Just chat with said friend in open conversation and try to include him from time to time.

Or through scarcity. Youre just so badass that you dont have time to waste with trivialities. Which can be easy to pull off if you have the history to prove it.

Etc...

As principles, you have to be imaginative. Personnally, i have no qualms on a professional level because in the end my cash is involved and i play to win. But normal relationships, if people were to go 'psychey' on me : id probably say something equivalent to go '*uck' yourself and walk away.
Dont be tool about it. What ive said is easily googled for more indepth examples and application. Theres a fine line between being diplomatic and just a lying tool. And while PUA use these principles deep down, its so rough from the fine source material that it comes out as being honest traits.


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I have always used this type of method, so when you see an AMOG coming you just be overly nice to him. No one can be nasty to someone being that nice without coming off as a total prick.

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