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The way that most PUAs think of attraction nowadays is ineffective. Since the concept of attraction is inherently subjective, I'm not saying that the way most PUAs think of attraction is wrong; it just makes the process of seduction unnecessarily difficult. More often than not, they structure their beliefs about attraction in a way that makes seduction an uphill battle rather than a thrilling free fall into a night of passionate fucking. Rather than letting yourself struggle with a puzzle of useless routines and DHV stories, allow me to offer an alternative way to think about attraction.

When it comes to attraction, a PUA's focus should be on sexually framing every thread of an interaction with a woman he's interested in so that the woman feels aroused with SEXUAL attraction. All the other things about attraction that you've heard - preselection, humor, wealth, and other commonly known DHVs - act mainly as logistical assistance that allows a woman to backwards rationalize her feelings of sexual attraction for a man. They aren't actually part of the main force that pushes the seduction forward.

In other words, if you're not thinking of attraction as a purely sexual feeling of desire, you're doing it wrong. Practicing pickup from the community's currently conventional value-based view of attraction leads to a big roadblock that aspiring PUAs constantly run into: the awkward switch from a "fun and social" vibe to a sexual vibe.

For example, if a PUA is trying to "build attraction" by communicating to a woman that they are a leader of men, the vibe of the interaction becomes based on the perception of social value. Contrary to popular belief in the seduction community, social value does not directly arouse a woman. It only gives her a "this guy is acceptable to associate with" message from her social programming. Somewhere along the way this message has the potential to translate into "this guy is acceptable to have sex with," but it is by no means triggering an instinctual horny desire for her to spread her legs and enthusiastically invite you in. It's not directly eliciting emotions within her that make her want to grab you and ride your cock until the both of you pass out from pleasure.

Lets put things into perspective. Have you ever met a woman who wasn't strikingly attractive to you, but your guys friends thought she was really really hot? You take a second look at her after you hear what your boys think of her, and suddenly she seems a bit more attractive than before. I don't know about you, but this happens to me a lot. Compare this situation to a time you met a woman who was so hot and sexy to you that you instantly felt a surge of lust and pure desire pulsating through your body and mind. When a PUA is trying to "build attraction" through things like commonly promoted DHVs and other "provider" cues such as being a leader of men, the woman may feel a slight growth in attraction for him just like how any guy would feel about that woman his friends approve of. However, this becomes a slow and strenuous process if the goal is simply sex. Wouldn't you rather have the woman feel the same way you're feeling when you see that incredibly sexy woman of your dreams for the first time?

Before we move on, let's address one limiting belief that may have popped up in your head just now. Do looks actually matter? My answer to that question may shock you...

Yes. Looks matter. However, your looks will only be able to help you if you are well-groomed and fashionable. If you think you're inherently ugly, you're fucking wrong. Why am I saying that looks matter, then?

Evolution has made it so that the genetic pool of the human race seeks to be heterogeneous. If every human being had the same genes and looked completely alike as a "perfect 10," that would open up a Pandora's box of problems for our species's survival. Ultimately, we'd become fatally vulnerable to natural mutations due to the decreased ability to adapt from a lack of genetic diversity. Species that have a homogeneous gene pool (as opposed to a heterogeneous one like ours) are actually asexual. That means they don't have sex with other members of their species. They reproduce offspring independently.

For our species to remain sexual and genetically heterogeneous, our sexual attraction is rooted in the principle of opposites attracting. Combining two opposites is the best way to produce something completely new. Make a shit ton of new stuff and you'll end up with a really fucking heterogeneous pool of stuff.

Since opposites attract, you will be very sexually attracted to a woman with genes opposite to yours. This is why you typically feel grossed out when you imagine having sex with members of your own family (unless you're Beschatten). This also means that the woman of your dreams will be sexually attracted to you since you have genes that are opposite to hers.

Just like Gunwitch teaches, as long as you are sarging women that you are genuinely attracted to on a physical/sexual level, they will much more likely to be genuinely attracted to you in the same way. A big problem that a lot of guys trying to learn pickup face is that they struggle through sarges because they are trying to seduce the socially defined "hottie" instead of listening to their gut-level attraction.

Proper grooming and shit like that allows you to express your genetic attractiveness more fully. Socially "uncool" fashion and poor hygiene will stifle the signal of your genes' polar pull. That's why having a cool style is highly beneficial.

OK, now that we know that looks matter. We also know that whatever looks we were born with will only help us get what we want (having sex with women we are genuinely sexually attracted to). After we've made our genes more presentable through fashion and grooming, how do we play the game according to this sexually focused definition of attraction?

I break the system of increasing sexual attraction down into three main tools that you can use:
1. Sexual State Projection
2. Sexual Framing
3. Sexual Tension

Note that these tools aren't in any particular order. For the most part, the game is not linear. It is mostly circular.

Sexual State Projection

Projecting Sexual State is pretty much something straight out of the Gunwitch Method. Go read it here: http://www.gunwitch.com

Sexual Framing

Sexual Framing is a big one. I define sexual framing as anything that gets the woman thinking about having sex with you, whether it be of conscious thought or of subconscious storage of thought.

How do you get a woman to think about having sex with you? There are many ways to do so. One day I observed a "natural" casually interacting with a group of people I was a part of. I was shocked at some of the crudely sexual remarks that came out of his mouth, but my shock would quickly subside when I noticed how congruent and unapologetic he was with his frame. I justified his behavior in my head, "That's just who he is. He must just be a really sexually aware guy." Besides, he wasn't being confrontational or creepy or anything like that. He seemed like he was just being his own damn self, completely comfortable in his own skin.

What he was doing was essentially giving everyone ample opportunity to squeeze our imaginations and produce sexual thoughts by using sexually charged language. It was then I realized that I must take more risks by engaging in potentially socially inappropriate behavior that clearly steers an interaction toward a sexual direction. For example:

HB: So I was shopping the other day (something completely unrelated to sex)
Chief: What? Let's have sex? Well, OK then.
HB: ...
Chief: Oh wait, that's not what you said. It's not a bad idea, though.
HB: Huh?
Chief: OK OK You're convincing me. Anyways, what were you saying about shopping?
HB: *giggle giggle giggle*

Sexual Framing can be as simple or as advanced as you need it to be. It can be as simple as using the word "sexy" when describing yourself or something about her, or as advanced as the "Grand Master Style" where you calibrate extremely vulgar phrases with a "just kidding." It can be as simple as using the old "That's what she said" line when you get an opportunity to use it, or as advanced as a trance-hijacking NLP pattern.

Amongst the many schools of the pickup arts I've delved into, I also studied Speed Seduction. So, of course I can think of numerous ways to sexually frame an interaction using NLP. One great way I've found to do this is to simply speak in ways that presuppose that we're already lovers.

All in all you should keep this in mind when it comes to Sexual Framing: As long as you are somehow directly giving her the mental image of her having sex with you, you're doing it right.

Sexual Tension

Building Sexual Tension gives you that feeling of needing closure. The more of it you build, the more you'll want to fuck each others brains out. And, the greater the mutual desire for sex, the greater the likelihood of sex actually happening. It'll also make sex a lot more enjoyable for both of you.

Tension is something that's created when two opposing forces are combined somehow. To apply tension to sexual attraction, you must combine a force that's moving the sexual vibe forward and a force that actually holds the sexual vibe back. One of the most common ways to do this is to evoke sexual arousal within yourself and the woman while talking about something that's completely nonsexual.

Because of the way in which these techniques use opposing forces in harmony, any application of the push/pull dynamic, the concept of 2-steps-forward-1-step-back, and cat string theory to the sexual vibe of an interaction will build Sexual Tension.

Another technique that builds Sexual Tension is triangular gazing. While you use triangular gazing, you are communicating the fact that you are thinking about kissing her. However, since this desire isn't verbalized, you end up building sexual tension.

An extreme example of building Sexual Tension is Ciaran's Shock and Awe technique. While using Shock and Awe you are verbally and physically expressing your pure desire but demonstrating an attempt to suppress your desire at the same time. Read about it here: http://www.puaratings.com/articles/ciaran-shock-and-awe

Adopting the mentality of sexual attraction that I have just outlined for you will increase your success rate in field dramatically. It certainly has for me. Many know this structure of game as "Fool's Mate." I just call it my standard game. Those who call this "Fool's Mate" are just following a structure of game that's slow and unnecessarily tedious.

If you want to have sex, why not focus on the sexual aspects of an interaction from the get-go?

Oh, and by the way... Combining this shit with an effective procedure of kino escalation and Vin DiCarlo's "Objection Game" is basically the complete model of my entire Outer Game. Now go out and get laid.

chief, please write more of your long posts. They are so amazing, and thats not just the morphine talking... you are actually amazing. Write more!!

Highlight of your post was :

Thanks for the post.
That was sick!!!

I read the Gunwitch Method, this helped put in perspective.

I also liked when you talked about how the people you are attracted to will be attracted to you most of the time.

Thanks man

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Threads like this is the reason why this forum is what it is. Amazing post.

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You should make this a sticky

Chief, this is an excellent post, however your statement on looks and a genetic desire to avoid aesthetic homogeny simply isn't accurate.

According to recent studies in sexual imprinting hypothesis, people prefer partner's who look more like their selves, than those who do not. Here is some supporting research for this.

http://racehist.blogspot.com/2008/09/se ... umans.html
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/119969.php
http://www.bereczkei.hu/research_1.html

The Westermarck effect further explains why we do not want sex with siblings. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imprinting_psychology

Gunwitch expounds on this theory with his SPAM of "Identifying type".

Now, you are correct in your assessment of a primal desire for heterogeneity of genes, but this largely applies when we consider IMMUNE SYSTEMS, and the mechanism for selecting partners based on an a-similar immune system is based on smell, not visual attractiveness.

Great post by and large, and it does pay to highlight and maintain your personal appearance, and to treat looks as if they DO NOT MATTER, for practical purposes.

Wow that is one of the best posts i've read here or on any other Pick-up forum.

It doesn't mess with all of that super complicated (yet simple) stuff like you say (DHV, negging, etc) and gets right to the point. In a incognito sort of manner...

LOL with MEDALS, I actually copy and pasted the EXACT words you quoted Chief and posted it in the chat room... before seeing your post

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Well explained and well written. I now have a much better understanding of your thoughts on DHV and attraction. I think even the "Mystery Gang" would admit that when they do run into "fools mates", the interaction with their targets are framed with a plenty of sexual energy. Recognizing it and going with it however is much different than creating it and pushing it. This is very good . . .

Well worth a 45 minute read lol.

I'm a bit confused though, could you explain the difference between complimenting like the links you gave did and complimenting like an AFC.

Thanks

-Ghetto

Thanks for the awesome post Chief.

Like sexual chocolate for PUA chocaholics.

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Riddle me this, Chief.

In traditional pickup methods, which you describe as unnecessarily tedious, you're flipping switches that may also have more important ramifications after the first sexual encounter, if you choose to have further, closer relations with a particular woman.

You note that flipping these switches allows a woman to back-justify having sex with you after you execute the seduction later. This supposes that the woman has regrets or would have had regrets about the sexual encounter. To me, this suggests that the technique you're describing is more appropriate for short-term sexual relationships and may hamper further development of the relationship.

Yes, a woman might also back-justify an emotional response based on her sexual response, but that seems somewhat less likely to me. Therefore, using the slower, traditional method would seem to provide the foundation for a greater variety of outcomes following the first sexual encounter in exchange for the greater investment of effort.

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ZE,

That's not much of a riddle. . .

F close enough girls this way and you'll find that many are not only indifferent to you later on . . . but even repulsed to a degree. This pure "sexual" meeting can only be justified to her social groups later on by telling them things like, "I was drunk." or "So what, I guessed slummed it a night . . ." Women aren't allowed to (nor should anybody really) live their lives driven by their sexual desires only.

There's a buddy of mine who is a natural with this. This kid will walk into a club and just run it with nothing but an incredibly strong sexual frame. There's a girl I am currently with now who actually made out with him at a club. The guy told her that she was a bore, pulled her to a dark area upstairs, and within minutes, they were making out.(He told me this, she didn't . . . although I'm sure she knows that I know . . .)

How do you think she "refers" to my buddy? "I don't trust him. He's weird. I don't like him." Of course . . . how else can she explain her "whorish acts"(as our society likes to call it).

When I try to explain this aspect of the "game" to him . . . he doesn't seem to get it. He tells me about a girl he met on a plane. Before they arrived, he pulled a blanket over them and fingered her to three orgasms. He asks me, "I called her 3 times. She doesn't call me back . . ." Are any of you surprised? What will she tell her friends, "Hey girls, the guy who finger fucked me on my way to Shanghai called me! Yaaaay! he's really super! He's definitely boyfriend material . . ."??

This "Strong sexual" frame is only one aspect the game but it's a very good one. Too many newbies write up stuff like, "I've been gaming her for 6 months . . . I've been negging her, push/pulling her, DHV'ing her . . ." (No . . . you haven't done JACK SHIT!)

Can you get that one night lay + and have her go crazy for you, wait for your call, and tell all her friends about you as if you were the best thing that's ever happened in her life? Yes . . . but that's a different topic.

ZEGlass and kasabi,
In this thread I have posted details of only 1/3 (or less) of what my personal style of gaming actually consists of! My girls do not have Buyer's Remorse.
No. The flipping of those specific switches (such as traditional DHVs) act as what APPEARS to act as appropriate justifications for having had sex, but they aren't really. In something like the Mystery Method, I believe a woman oftentimes feels Buyer's Remorse because the process of seduction didn't feel very natural. From the way that I do shit, there's no reason to feel Buyer's Remorse in the first place, thus there's no need to do things that "prevent" Buyer's Remorse in the first place. I'll actually write an article more on this later.
No. It doesn't hamper shit. It's just more appropriate for seduction in general. Even if you want a success and passionate LTR, every PUA would agree with me when I say: the sooner you have sex, the better. I realize that this is in direct contradiction with your religious views, ZEGlass, but I don't know what to tell you. Abstinence just isn't natural.
There is no need for a "back-justification" in the first place when you apply:
1. Sexual Attraction
2. Lowerin ASD (more on this in a future article)
and 3. [consistent and smooth] Kino Escalation
Actually, it greatly limits you.

I still don't see how this methodology does anything but get you laid. DHV makes sense to me because it builds a framework from which a girl can develop admiration and respect for you. You're creating sexual attraction, but when do you get to the part where the girl actually enjoys your company and not just because the sex is great?

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ZEGlass I have to disagree, I think Chief pretty much hit the nail on the damn head...


http://www.gunwitch.com/

I read GWM1 and 2, and there is a WEALTH of REAL insight and none of that "DHV 'x' amount, then neg her 3 times (but only if shes an HB9+!!!!), then kino escalate starting with this and that" blah blah blah blah, that gets old.

All of that stuff certainly helps (if done right), however I am finally starting to realize that girls want sex as much as, if not more, than us horny dudes. It's all about inner-game and conveying the fact that you KNOW that she wants a dick inside of her. Unless she is a lesbian or disfigured down there (gunwitch)

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