What do you mean he "should" be out with his ladies. Its not like its a fucking must for us, a job is something that is a must. Being with women ain't a fucking job.

I have a few rich friends who failed, but after I taught them that women don't like pussies and some other stuff, they actually got a girlfriend.

So just like Sinn said
They still are not a must to get women, even the good lookin' ones.
If you still don't believe, go ahead and stick you'r head in the ground. Its not like we care really.

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You were working late last night, had to be up early for an appointment, and yet you managed to write a reply 9.30am today afterwards?

Madals the biggest giveaway to the fact you don't go out, don't have any women in your life and don't practice what you preach is you are on this site at all hours of the day, everyday- have an average post count of 3 A DAY
And yet you're the biggest critic of things you don't even practice, let alone have experienced.

Unlike others on this website I don't have a beef taking advice from an 18 year old (see my response about the 18 year old from a sports car manufacturer).[/b]

I'm glad you're a fan of David DeAngelo- Stetson good for you.

BUT I stick by my point that Money is extremely important.

As for not "caring"- to be honest Stetson I'll try not to splash you when I drive through a puddle in my Ferrari accompanied by some Hot Blonde Vogue Model- with an MPUA not far behind me in a similar car

Fame, don't flame Madals. It's an asshole thing to do.
You're an rAFC, you still haven't learned some very important concepts of PU, and I respected your effort to post your thoughts, but when it comes to being a dick to others who have other opinions on things, you've crossed the line, whether that person is a keyboard jockey or not, it doesn't matter. Now get over it because I believe a 15 year old asian kid just told you off. Me.

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yeah money, looks and fame is helpful.
but if that is all you got then youre fucked..

are you my stalker or something? u seem to be looking at my timetable a hell of a lot
Up early was 4:30AM, i got back to my house at 8:30 and after some food looked over the the forum. Oh, its now 5:05 PM, i have been out all day since then. Interesting.
3 posts a day average isnt hard, i log in every day (normally after college before i go somewhere) and then reply to posts that interest me.. i dont quite know how you come to the conclusion i dont get out when i do that.
As for dont have any women in my life? wtf ARE YOU TELLING ME THEY ARE ALL LADY BOYS Seriously frame, you just sound like a compleate fool and have no idea what your talking about since you dont know me and that just makes you look stupid. Refer to what I just said about being a fool with no idea.

As for being out picking up girls all the time, if you do that i pitty you. I actually have better things to do with my life than "go sarging", if i see/meet some women i like along the way its a bonus. The best way to pick up women is to not go out to pick them up

Tbh tho, i couldnt give a shit about what you think of me. Keep beleiving whatever the hell you want - people who dont want help themselves cant be helped by others.

Frame,

How about providing us the "MONEY pick up" routine?

Money Open - Money Routine - Money Close.

Through 9 pages, you've said the same thing over, over, and over again. "MONEY = Attraction". So let's see it.

You walk into a club and . . .

You see a hot girl at a coffee shop and . . .

Let's see your game.

I havent flammed anyone in this forum, Ive only made valid points so do you mind removing the negative points you gave me from my account or at least add some negative to Madals for his "you are a dick" comment he made directly towards me.

If not I will add negative comments to your account for lack of impartiality

My assumption is you guys are just mad because I asked an "MPUA" a very valid question. Lets face it PUA never gets investigated by the mainstream media and when it does its a laughing stock.

Most people I know (male and female) believe PUA is "rubbish" and laugh at some PUAs so-called achievements- do question the price tag of MPUAs and even balk at the PUA statement that fianacial stability doesnt hold any value (a paradox to the pricing of PUA products)
The truth is whilst a lot of what is taught maybe new to you- it has been part of peoples psychology, relationships for years prior to you.
People laugh at PUA (women included) because they weren't born yesterday, THEY KNOW what you know. Why dont they verbalise it? Its non of your business- thats why.
I think the main problem with guys on this forum is they cannot make decisions for themselves or realise that people either like you or they don't.

I would Kasabis question, but the answer would involve me talking about an interaction with a "real woman" in this forum for once.
Ironically the answer to your question Kasabi is in my "balanced lifestyle" and "wealth building" and to a degree YOUR own replies-why the change of tack?

To be honest some of the replies on this forum are attacks on womens nature, and wouldn't work in real life. A woman has more value than you- GET OVER IT and can get laid whenever she wants, with whoever she wants and will leave you in the blink of and eye if you start fucking about using creepy RSD Blueprint Psychology.

So I don't feel comfortable sharing such information with guys I haven't met, let alone would want to meet- who write little or nothing about actual infield experiences.

I find it suspicous the second I question even the most basic of principles of this so-called Pick Up lifestyle I have legions of deranged fans kamikazi-ing me, making personal attacks that are uncalled for (thanks for the "you're a dick" comment Madals-it reinforces my belief of how fanatical some people are). I doubt Madals you'd get a PUA internship writing the above comments and if you really are setting up your own PUA company that'll attract "normal" guys you seriously need to work on your PR skills...

Frame, i didnt say you are a dick, i said your being one. Their are key difference and since its causing you such a problem i have edited out.
Right, where to start.... I dont know what media you have been watching but this is a very odd statement. Articales i have read about "mainstreem" looking at PU are actually the opposite, unless ofc they get look at the wanna be PUA's who manipulate cheat lie etc.
There are so many things i could pick out of this that make it a silly statement to make. Social pressure would make endorcing PUA bad, simply because people consider a PUA/player to be the same thing. Agreeing to manipulative behavior etc isnt socially acceptable. Both men and women i have explained it to have found it very interesting, are curious how it works and understand why it works and agree.
I agree, there are very few PUA things i did before i even knew they were called DHV's, push pull etc.
No, thats not why. They know what your doing, your flirting with them and building attraction etc. They notice just as much as a guy notices girls hitting on him. But guess what, they dont say anything because they DONT CARE! You seem to have the mentality that men and women dont want to be together? Women want men and men want women. Its just a case of being that high value person (though looks, power, charm, intelligance, skills, personality etc etc). Women want men to pick them up, most men cannot build attraction etc with a women tho.
That is a stupid statement, people here can make decisions themselves. Addmittedly a lot of new people find that hard, but if you have never listened and done what someone more successful has said your lying. As for people either like you or they dont, do you honestly think you cant influence that? People either like you or they dont because of how you act around them. Refer to my post about interaction being a scale of love to hate and everything you do affects it.
I call bullshit. If you dont want to put on the forum PM me what you do. Why do you think everyone on this forum is faking it? lol.
Please give some examples, not including refering to women as "bitches" or "sluts" because i dont agree with that either. I am talking about actually PUA techniques that have been discussed.
Congratulations, you made me speachless with this comment. No race/sex/gender etc automatically makes someone higher value. Its how that person acts.
I havent read RSD blueprint, but a common trend in all your posts seem to insinuate that you think EVERYONE here uses MM, RSD etc etc. Not everyone follows a method like a lost puppy in the rain.
You just shot your own argument in the foot. You say people who do write FR/LR's are bullshitting and making it up but so are the people who dont. A lot of people dont write field reports for many reasons. Personally, i feel no need to tell the people here about sucesses with women in full. Firstly because there is an element of trust in all good social interactions and most people wouldnt want to be seen as another mark on the forums bedpost. The other reason i dont post them is because i dont have a set plan, openers, routines etc that i use and therefore it would be ver difficult for people to learn form me in that way, not to mention the fact i couldnt possibly remember everything i said
You obviously dont understand what a PU lifestyle is by the comments you make in your posts. You make it out that PUA's revolve their whole life about going sarging and closing. I think you will actually find the majority of sucessful people on this forum have the principle of doing things you enjoy in life and if women are along the way to go for it then, women are the icing not the cake.
I think you will actually find your comments have been a lot more of a personal attacks. Thankyou for your advice on PR tho

Oh, its 12:30 and i wrote this while eating lunch just so you know

Madals

This ones hilarious
Fame's got a point though

I have a friend. Family has a huge hotel business. looks attractive
just that he thinks men with huge dicks get women.

Hes a virgin obviously.

This makes perfect sense.

But I'd also add that Fame2Advancement seems to have beliefs that women are alot more higher value. IE hes set the pussy on a pedestal.

He might've gone through some bad experiences with women, which caused him to think that women actually leave a guy in a blink of an eye if theres something weird or bad about him.

This also opens up the fact that he might only think of women that they "only care about money and the shiz blingbling", which might mean that he has lost his girl to a rich guy.

Which also might mean that hes just one regular guy who failed at his own PUA attempt, so hes here to preach us about it.

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Exactly, it's just ONE GUY who's talking about HIS OWN EXPERIENCES.

But experiences change as people change. And this community is all about change.

With time and effort, Fame will continue to learn more about society and that it's not really just about money and fame.

He's just assuming that we are all going through the same thing he is right now because he's going through a phase of ego. The quicker that ego disappears, the quicker Fame will be successful.


I hate to be talking like this, judging people, and just sounding like some know-it-all. But I really can't word things any better.

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So to summarize Frame's 10 page saga of a thread:

1. PUA "study material" is expensive and people laugh about it.

2. Women have more value than men and they might leave you if you're not on top of your game.

3. And since nobody here has much infield experience, he doesn't feel comfortable sharing "such information".

4. Wealth = Attraction.

So . . .

1. For somebody who writes endlessly about money, you seem to know very little about it. Not sure what you do to earn money but no matter what type of product or service you provide, there are "people" who think your product/service is too expensive and not worth it at all. (These are the people who DO NOT purchase your products and/or services)

This would of course be the same with PUA products/services. You think it's too expensive. Plenty others do not agree with you.

2. Did you flunk Economics class? How can you continue to write that women can be had with money . . . and also write that they hold more value than us? This is nuts . . . unless of course your wallet is extremely thin.

3. What's the threat with "talking about an interaction with real women for once" in this forum? You've blabbered on about your pick up style tirelessly and when finally asked to share beyond your personal theory, you stick your tail between your legs? You didn't seem so shy about why you "think" other styles don't work. How about just a glimpse of what does? You don't even have to be specific. Come on money man, show us your money game.

4. I agree with you. So let's see your game. Wealth open - Wealth routine - Wealth close.

I pronounce this thread utterly worthless, full of circular arguments and ad hominem attacks. It started as valid criticism, but now it's getting old. Lets move on. All in favor of putting this thread out of it's misery, stop bumping the poor thing at let it bury itself, so no one else wastes time reading it.