Hey guys, as you can tell by the thread title I am in high school and I'm pretty frustrated with my life right now. I am just so bad with girls its insane.

The funny thing is, I'm not some loser who doesn't have a social life. I go and hang out with my friends almost everyday. In addition, my friends are just super good with girls, probably among the best in the whole school. One of my friends has a super hot girlfriend and my other friends just converse with girls with ease. Also, my friends often have girls over to hang out when I'm around, so I'm around good looking girls a lot. I've been told that I'm good looking, and I'm a very talkative and funny person around guys.

Based on that, I shouldn't have too much of a problem with girls in high school. WRONG. I am terrified of talking to girls. When my friends have them over, I literally don't speak unless spoken to, I just get so nervous. When a girl does decide to talk to me, I give the most dull answers imaginable, and whenever a girl asks me my opinion on something I always say "I don't know". I never ask them questions back. I know I should, but in the moment I am just so nervous I can't even think straight.

Right now I have really low self esteem and just want to enjoy the rest of my high school experience. If anybody has any tips or advice they culd give me it would be MUCH appreciated.

well i think that you have to go and talk with all the girls you can, but considering your situation y would say that you should sdo that with girls that out of your social circle, the first times you are going to look bad, but it is something that you would fix with the practic.

good luck

You know, the problem might not be that you are no good with girls, but rather your friends are so good they overshadow you!
For example: they talk so much that it's hard to enter the conversation, and when you do get a chance to speak, u're just like "..." then "I don't know.... yea"
I was kinda like u in high school, very funny, young & handsom, big social circle, good talker, i was invited to top tier parties, etc... Funny thing is, my friends were also "the best on the block, big pimpin, neighborhood superstar" --> one was always impressing me with these superhot friends, the other, getting laid like a prostitute on steroids, and another.... oooh... anyways back to the point!! U see the resemblance of our situations? and coincidently i was just as terrible with girls!

the problem is ur friends are too controlling of the conversation. It's the kind of friends that don't make good wingmen... not all of them, maybe just one of them, and he may be at the root of of worsening your problem. think: does your friend give u opportunites to enter the conversation (ask 4 ur opinion, turn to look at you, or even tell u "go talk to them while I'm busy") or does he always do 1 on 1 convos with the girls?

if it's the case, then god bless, you're not so far off from potential tru playa-hood!

This is what I did: I broke away from this (great) friend of mine! it wasn't intentional though. even to this day, when i'm around him and he goes to talk to a girl he knows, I break off & go talk to someone else then meet up when he's done instead on standing there silently, feeling like a total looser!
You gotta take that distance from 'em, talk to new girls like Extremo says! also learn to be more dominant in the convo! deeper voice, lowder voice! interupt to say what you gotta say! Learn about Body Language! and check out self-esteem stuff (inner-game).
One thing about these kind of friends: they got a lot of skills and a lot of understand about inner game, plus and they got valuable experience in relationships, and you can learn a lot more from them than from reading books & stuff. U just gotta find the RIGHT questions to ask them.
Develop ur social skills/ game independently. If ure like me, it shoudn't be too hard and that great sens of humor should eventually kick back in!

note: I don't mean "Leave" that friend when I say break away from him, i just mean develop ur lady-conversating-without-stress skills without him being there to stop ur social development! When u'll be ready, u'll know and you'll be able to apreciate his friendship much more.
as for me, that friend of mine called me while i was writing this... we're going out to the bar to play some pool with a couple of (very) hot girls tonight and I'm not counting on being silent!

Good Luck Bro

btw, what does the T stand for in DiceBoy T? just curious

Join the high school forum, 160 members and counting ;]

_________________
http://highschoolpuas.proboards.com

http://highschoolpuas.proboards.com

Grape's eBook of 2009 (71 pages of useful information) http://www.scribd.com/doc/24523878/Grap ... ok-of-2009

First of all regarding High School:
There is no reason why you can't go a 180 at any point in highschool. When I was in HS I saw kids go from scrub to socialite in a mater of months. I used to be popular but turned into a geek (a damn good looking one though). So it can work both ways.

Regarding your specific situation:
Sounds like your inner game is fucked. You need more confidence. You may have some issues that are holding you back. Try identifying them. Then implement a plan to correct the issue. Also, getting used to talking to women is important as well. Just like extremo said. You can even game ugly girls if you need to. I spent like 20 min today gaming an ugly girl. Just cause I wanted some more experience.

Also try visiting the other boards on this site: building confidence and approach anxiety.

plain and simple your afriad of messing up, pissing them off, saying something wrong, your just self conscious really bad and your mouth wants to say some cocky funny line but your brain says hell no dont say that what if you piss them off..


what you need is a good dose of what every PUA needs and that is


Not giving a shit, dont care what they will think to what you have to say...


of course this type of mind set takes time, so your gonna have to work at it nothing in life is easy and if you want to be on a level that your friends are on your gonna have to be like them and not care at all.....

cause when you dont care, you stop worrying about all those what if's..


so i say start from the ground up they ask a question anwser them with more then an i dont know and then shout back a questoin at them and keep it going hopefully soon enough, talking will become natural id also seek your friends for advice

_________________
How You Approach Is A Matter Of How You Feel "mPUA Savior"

You Live What You've Learned

where is the high school forum?

and i dont think that his friends controll the conversationb, acording to what he said he has al ot of oportunities to talk with the girls... so is probably a inner game thing.

I'm in somewhat of the same situation as you. Only I'm becoming more and more confident, and are beginning to talk to more and more girls.

Trust me I need help, but with practice, you'll get good at the game in no time. Its just like when you play a sport, you're nothing without practice.

I'm wondering the same thing..where is the high school forum?

This is extremely accurate, I am terrified of saying the wrong thing to a girl.

This is really great advice. I think one of my major problem is that I care what girls think about me waaaay to much. I think it would beneficial for me to think of them not so much as "girls" but as friends.

Also, I have tried consulting my friends for advice and to be honest they weren't very helpful, the only advice they gave me was "talk more".

Take this from someone recently out of high school and who went to a small private school of only a little more than 100 students in my class. I initially had that feeling of not wanting to mess up, and not being comfortable. But here's something that most people don't tell you, but everyone learns it their senior year... You're not going to give a rat's ass what they think once everyone starts getting prepared to go all over the country for college. It's at this point that you're comfort with everyone skyrockets because you get the attitude of "if they don't like me, who cares cuz I won't see them again". And it is at this point that you will realize that everyone is the same whether guy or girl and that your confidence shouldnt be hindered by the gender of a person. And lastly, it is at this point that you will talk with an HB10 the same way you talk with an HB1 and the 10's will love you for it.

So if you can get it in your head now, that everything you're worried about is just your mind playing tricks on you, you should find yourself being much more successful in time to come.

Always helping,
~GQute

when i go out and talk to girls i feel the same way i get nervous and everything and try not to say something stupid but u just gotta do it man i mean i know its easier said then done but just talk wats the worst that can happen? ever master pua's have approach anxiety they just dont care and it doesnt take long not to care. just be yourself and talk and if u dont pose a threat anyone will talk to you.

_________________

If you're still really having problems, try blanket statements. You said that there are plenty of times that you and a bunch of friends are watching movies or just hanging out. Don't address any one specific person, just make a statement to the entire room, everyone will put their two cents in, and then you can feed off of it and talk about each of their opinions and whether you agree or disagree. And this almost always will lead into other conversations.

In my signature.

http://highschoolpuas.proboards.com/

=]
<33 Grape

_________________
http://highschoolpuas.proboards.com

http://highschoolpuas.proboards.com

Grape's eBook of 2009 (71 pages of useful information) http://www.scribd.com/doc/24523878/Grap ... ok-of-2009

Lucky D is right that your friends might be more of a hindrance to you right now than a help. That doesn't mean that they have to be! They're your mates, man. They probably want you to be successful with women too! Yes, you're going to need more confidence, but get them on your side. Anything you learn here will be magnified if you pull it off while your already-successful friends are present and reflecting their approval of you. Lucky D mentioned that right now, they're poor wingmen. You can make them into good wingmen, though, and they'll provide you with DHV (demonstration of higher value.)