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i'm glad someone posted this. i've noticed it, too, that many of the guys who come on here asking for help really don't need a pua coach, they need a psychologist.
on a forum, however, it's hard to tell the difference. pretty much people have to make their own choices as to whether they get help or not. all we can do is point them in the right direction. hopefully, though, some will learn and get the help that they need.
I realised this the first time I started coaching guys in person. I always thought that it was just the way I was interpretting stuff that guys online said, but it turned out that the people usually were
worse in person than online, believe it or not. When I started running full workshops I discovered that most guys have such severe issues that half the time I spend is just helping them change their perception of themselves and the world they live in.
I think that there's really 2 things that good workshops do that the other ones don't do. I've taken some good workshops and listened to some good seminars and read great articles, just like I've experienced some crappy ones and usually the crappy ones are done by the guys with all the big hype and corporations. The unsung heros are guys like Sean, Johnny, Zan, Sinn, Adam, Zip, myself and a whole bunch of other guys that aren't talked about enough because they aren't into marketing schemes and so not enough people know about them, which is why I always mention their names.
So the good things I spoke of. First the best workshops don't just tell you what to do and what to say, they explain why you do an say certain things and give a few examples in order to drive the point across; they help you understand why certain things work and others don't, that way you don't need material, they help you understand what's going on so that you never need to ask for help from people about the situation or anything similar again. The second thing they do is prime you by eradicating misconceptions and limiting beliefs that cause all those issues that people have. The whole point of the way these people teach is geared towards fixing the root of the problem, not the symptom and that's why they're effective coaches.
I honestly don't think that taking workshops is a waste of time because I think a good workshop can help people overcome all the issues they have. I think that a lot of the popular workshops are a waste of time and money because they don't focus on those things that the good ones do and they usually end up causing more issues in people that already have them. I bet it's cheaper and more effective to take a workshop with one of the people I named than it is to see a psychologist about the same issues. I know three ways that I can cure a person's phobia in under an hour, whereas most psychologists will take over 5 to start to make any real impact on it because of the methods they use.
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