The car is important if you live in an area like Los Angeles. But it does not need to be a 2008 BMW tho. A used car will be just fine.
Its okay be somewhat arrogant, but if your too arrogant it will turn off most girls. As far as being materialistic goes, all you will attract are materialistic girls. Is that the type of girl you want? It certainly seems like it. There is nothing wrong with that if that is the type of girl you want.

Why?

LOL this is funny thread. Its free forum and I can state my opinion freely right?
All I can say you, I have money and have nice watch. I went sarging with it and without it. And I can say that it did not make any difference, I felt the same and gamed the same
Also I had few decent cars, and there were periods without a car (when I sold one and was looking for new one). And my game was at the same level with it and without car

So basicly you don't have that big of a trouble besides that public transport is not comfortable and don't go past 11pm. But thats just general uncomfortability, not that much effective you your picking up game

And how do you manage the no car issue if you want to fclose her and you both live with parents (so how is never empty).

Don't buy a car, buy a horse

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Because it is HARD and I love challenge. Besides money = safety. I won't need to worry about not being able to pay the bills or not being able to travel where I want.

Do you think I will attract gold diggers? WRONG! Because I am not the person who will spend money on someone else. Yeah, I am such an egoist. I want all money for myself and my family ONLY. Besides I know how to pretend to be unmaterialistic, too. I can pretend to be whatever I want if that is required.

First off jurupa ... aren't you the poster who bragged about LYING to girls to make them believe you have some money? How about telling us the point of the "lying game"? Just for fun? Right . . .

Look, none of you guys are going out on a Saturday night with your smelly 70's style gym shorts and flip flops . . . right? Is this for you or your target? Who the fuck cares! You're just not doing this. Even you younger guys in smaller towns have some materialistic standards right?

So where do you draw the line? No gym shorts? Ripped jeans? Would you go out wearing a skirt? How about a bra? Would you do it wearing your dad's painting overalls? I Love NYC T-Shirt?

Nobody here would be nuts enough to say that confidence and self love are not important. Of course these things are important.

But if you've never worn an Armani suit and a fat 10k watch out to a ritzy private party in a classy lounge in a major city, then you don't really know what these props can do for you. "Gold Diggers" you say? How about easily grabbing the attention of your average classy, confident, successful, beautiful sexy women living fun lives in a big city? How about just feeling like a million dollars?

If you're in your young 20's, then have fun with your living cool with with a small budget life style. Develop your confidence. Develop your character. Be proud of who you are. Love yourselves. These are all great things.

But guys, there's nothing wrong with having some "materialistic goals". There's nothing wrong with leveraging those materialistic goals to drive yourself to greater professional success. This way, when you hit your 30's, you have a choice. Isn't this the ultimate freedom?

Those girls notice everything from your 3 day old hickey that's now only barely pink to the 5k watch glittering on your wrist. Do you know what an expensive watch does for you? It assures the girl that you don't live in your mom's basement. (Even though you may be). It assures her that you’re successful. (Even though you may not be) It assures her that you are driven. (Even though you may be lazy) It assures her that you care about your looks. (You should be) It even gives off an alpha aroma. Really . . .

Pizza dinners and shagging in your mom's basement might be OK if you're 20 and you live in a small town but do you really want to ask a girl who lives in a penthouse to come over to your basement studio to shag? Sure you might get her to be "attracted" to you with your A game but you're happy with this? This simple little prop gives an instantaneous sign to your target that she won't need to worry about going to the ghetto if she decided to sleep over. (Even though that's where you may live)

Finally, how do you keep score? Some of you seem giddy over the homeless toothless guy who can bang 10's. Great for him and bravo to his game. But I'd think there's nothing wrong with having some additional goals in life.

By the way, that homeless vet would get kicked out of the LINES to get into some ritzy clubs.

To the Silver Guy, I disagree with you. Depending on the environment, wearing money can make a huge difference. Although having said that, a guy who can afford these things often carry themselves like a "guy who can afford these things." . . .

Fair enough.

As hard as it may to believe this, it was for fun.
Every one is materialistic to a certain point. I was referring materialistic as someone that lives their life by the objects they have around them and nothing else.
I been around such props more than once and have seen a wide range of reactions from girls when guys wear such things. I also live in an area where there are girls that won't date a guy unless he drives a BMW.
I agree. But for me personally I am for the most part conservative with money and don't like to flash it either.
In my opinion it does nothing. Especially when you are around other guys with as much or more money than your self.
Personally I go for quality over quantity.
I think you should have additional goals in life.

Your car - it is not a you

That quote has freaked me the fuck out!

I get that you want to have nice things. And the trappings of success. Good for you. And I mean that sincerely.

BUT

Having the Brietling and the Bentley convey a particular image. And if thats what you feel you need to be able to talk to the waitress in a bar or the heiress to a Million dollar empire. Then go out and get them.

However, if you find that even with these items your success with girls hasn't improved as much as you'd like (or you're atracting too many Gold diggers) what do you do next? What's the next luxury good you need? LearJet?/20 bedroom house? Same question, what do you get next? I feel there's a real danger of not addressing the particular sticking point you're having. Whatever that may be.

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like everyone else says u aint need dat stuff.

That is a problem of ANY car, not necessary the fancy one for 10k$+

I agree with you. I was talkng only about watch. You can wear good clothes and look money without watch. Maybe you left it home, maybe you are not the watch guy and so on There are lots of rich people not wearing watches and they don't look "no money"
And fancy car too, it helps, but not THAT much that you should worry about your game without it

jurupa,

If LYING to girls about how much money you had was only for FUN, did you ever try having "fun" by successfully LYING to girls about how POOR you are?

And you already told us how your 100 dollar GI Joe watch didn't have much effect in a club. Do you in fact live in a Disney movie?

Did I struck a nerve or something with you? But to answer your questions. I was semi successful "LYING" about being poor when I was in college full time with no job. I was only semi successful as I knew nothing about PUA nor had I heard about it when I did it. As far as living in a Disney movie I don't, nor do I want to be living in one. I would go crazy with the political correct crap that they put in their movies.