Why is my club game far superior than my actual game?

Read below and I hope it doesn't across like I'm trying to brag because that isn't my intention.

I goto a club, dance for 5 or 10 minutes and have girls all around me who I can tell are interested. I make eye contact, smile and generally just have a really good time. Then I go over start grinding and then I can usually kiss close after a bit dancing, I mean I hardly say anything. That part of my game is solid.

When I'm in a bar though, I seem to struggle. I can spit game for longish periods of time, notice that I'm not getting many IOI's and ditch the set as quickly as it started. Don't get me wrong I can occasionally do well but it's never with the girls I want to do well with.

Here's an example, I started in Lloyds bar last night. I opened around a 10 set and got them all to do the congo, built no attraction though because it's hard with that many and I was just warming up. Then I sat down to chill for a bit and opened a 4 set which were sitting across the room from the first set.

There was 1 girl in the set who was just completely negative, so I ignored and negged her as usual but nothing seemed to bring her bitch shield down. She kept mentioning her boyfriend, how she can't talk because of him and how she wasn't going to sign my friends t-shirt (it was his birthday) so I just got the hottest girl in the group to do it then ejected.

Later on that night the girl with the bitch shield was all over me in the club! I'm a completely average dancer but she couldn't stop staring over and then we had a filthy dance.

Any opinions?

Are there any ways to help my bar game with my club game?

you we're going on the right tactics with opening the 10 set and the 4 set but it seems like.. you needed to get more social approval. at the end she did come and dance with you. Make it like you and your friend are the party. Get the whole bar involed. by then that 4 set would have noticed already and have a lower defensive bitch sheild. I'm curious about the conversation with the 4 set. break it down for me bro.

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I think it may have to do with your body language or the way you deliver your routines. In the club you are just having fun and *close without a word. But maybe in the pub you don't feel so comfortable and women can smell that.

Isnt it that girls get a idea of how good you are in bed by your dancing skills

club game is easy. thats why you're better at it.
all you need to do is dance, look like you're having a good time and be at least slightly good looking. you dont need to say a word. you dont have to be interesting or run routines or tell stories. you can be boring as hell and still do well. even though girls all say they go clubbing just to dance, many of them also go because they want to grind a bit and kiss some guys, so they make it even easier for you.

as for your bar game... being able to run game for a long time doesn't make you good. in fact, if you were good then you wouldn't need to run much game at all. the reason why you can occasionally score but never with the ones you want is simple: you're game isn't tight. there could be a million places where you're falling out but my guess would be that you're either not interesting enough or your frame is weak, because most new guys have this problem. social proof doesnt mean shit if you pull the energy down or if you're not interesting enough, but well done on getting a 10 set to do the congo.

if you're not getting IOI's then you probably arent DHVing enough, or your DHV's are sounding/looking try-hard and AFC.

you're not really giving us enough info to work with here... it could be body language, tonality, material, energy levels, inner game...

inhibitions are lowered at clubs and people are there to have fun so its going to be easy, at bars girls may have there bitch shields up cause they are expected to get hit on, a bar isnt the same as a club....unless it has a dance floor and a dj then is levels out the playing field a bit

but a club is way easier then a bar due to the lowered inhibiitions and this girl not wanting to talk and then talking to you after a while....well my friend thats what alchohol does to you.......that aint to hard to figure out

she is saying fuck off one min and a few hours later is talking to you......hmm i think mr. jack daniels told her to do that lol

and this is a sad world were MOST people not including pua's...but MOST people need to get drunk or buzzed to even have a social conversation guess thats why they call alchohol "liquid courage"....so in clubs girls looking to have fun inhibitions dropped, at bars there looking for fun too but bitch shields are up cause well they usually get the typical "loser" approaching them.....and day game is hard cause most people are conditioned to be more defenseful in public in day time, its not really seen as normal to approach in public and try and get a number, bitch shields are up big time and there probably thinking i already know what you want

now like i said this is MOST people.......\

so if i was you at a bar, id hold eye contact, have a confident look on your face just have fun with your friends, maybe wave a girl or two over to talk, but if you approach THEM early on and sometiems late into the night at a bar, there gonna know already what you want...and that sheild comes up,

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i had a little social experiment last night.

in a bar:
i put myself into afc mode, tried to work 3 sets. no success. not even close.
in game, an hour later, 3 number closes + 1 kiss close.

in a club:
in afc mode, just dancing as i normally would, i had plenty of IOIs and a few grind partners. the only thing i used was not to be needy, because i had a shitload of hotties around me anyway... 2 k-closes
in game mode, same as above.


so basically, in case you dont believe that game doesnt mean shit in a club, here is my proof and i challenge anyone who doesnt agree with me.
it is easier to work a club than a bar, all you need is to be slighly good looking and to be an average dancer.
combination above = easy ass, given the right targets.