Warrior and I began to talk about different questions regarding the right and wrong ways to balance multiple sexual relationships. So before the posts got to long and numerous, I moved the discussion to a new post and title so more people cold benefit from our conversation. Please feel free to add any thoughts or experiences you have on the matter.

Here is the original questions/discussion
Alright. I'm going to try to keep my responses as organized and rant-free as possible. But we'll see how that works out.

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First off, in my current situation I am balancing 5 girls, but I've had upwards of 7-10. Personally, I find that more than 5 is too much work, too stressful and not worth the effort just for a few more girls. Anyway, the 5 I am currently seeing are in different degrees (will go into this). 2 of them are fairly serious relationships but they are nonetheless casual, telephone contact is usually daily with these girls and I usually see them up to 3-4 times per week. The third girl is a long-time friend and ex-girlfriend, this relationship is purely fun for the both of us, no drama, no questions asked, no rules other than courtesy towards one anothers health (regarding STD and whatnot). The fourth is a very casual long distance relationship, we live 100's of miles away but remain in contact and visit each other when the opportunity presents itself. The final girl actually a friend of the third girl's, I met this girl while out with her friend. This is a sex-only relationship, we don't go on dates, we don't grab lunch, we don't usually hangout for much longer than 2 hours at a time, I think she actually has a boyfriend, not sure though I don't really know that much about her personal life. Thats my current agenda, but I certainly understand your situation Helvetio.

Next, before we go any further I want to discuss rules I set myself to ensure minimal drama within the set-up. I am not out to "play girls" and I'm certainly not out to break hearts, in every situation that I possibly can I tell the girl that I am not exclusive, however there are many situation that I do not. I try to be as fair as possible, but if its not possible, oh well. Okay, before I get serious with any girl for a relationship I categorize their personality and the type of relationship I think they would fulfill in my life. Of course most of them start out as casual relationships and either move to a new category or stay there depending on how we click. Here they are:

1)Girlfriend - When a girl usually falls into this category I'll drop all the others and dedicate myself to her. Not likely to happen at this point of my life, I hold very high standards to those I spend that much time with and few girls that I've met meet those standards, two in all actually. Like I said there is only one of these in a rotation, and she is alone in it. These girls make up a minor percentage of the women I've encountered.

2)Serious relationship - As I said I have two girls that fit this category as of right now. I define this category as a girl who could be girlfriend material, but I either don't want to at the moment, haven't gotten to know her that well, or some other reason. These girls are given a lot of attention all across the board, emotional, sexual, time, and energy. I spend money on these girls, go out of frequent dates, have them sleep over most of the times we hang-out, let them meet my parents, and hangout with my friends. I personally advise having no more than two of these girls in this category of your life or it will get hectic and confusing. These women are about 20% of the women I've met and dated.

3)Semi-serious relationship - These are a serious relationship in its early phases, the girls intrigue me and stimulate me intellectually, emotionally, and physically. I do mostly all the same things with these girls as I do the serious relationships, but just spend less time, energy, money, effort on them. I'd see anywhere from 2-4 of these girls at a time, they make up about 40% of the girls I've ever been with.

4)Casual relationship - This is what I would consider your current 7 girl rotation as, casual relationships. Though I cannot say for sure since I don't know all the details. I see these type of women up to twice a week, no more. This is strictly a physical relationship for me, compared to the other women above them, I know very little about their philosophy of life. They are usually more geared toward just going out or coming over and ending the "date" with sex, then leaving shortly afterwards. Most of the women I meet start in this category, and either move up or move on to another guy. I'd recommend no more than the 7 that you are juggling right now. But again, thats all up to your skill level and tolerance, its quite possible to do more, my buddy who I learned alot of my game from at a young age used to have upwards of 10 of these on a weekly basis. (Yes I know, its absurd, but true.)

5)Very Casual relationship - Same as above, but these are usually the ones that have drifted away and moved on from seeing me and have new boyfriends but still kind of hang around and call me when their single again. I'll talk to these women about once month or so, if that. Still we maintain contact as a once and awhile friends/lovers kind of thing. Have as many of these as you want, the more the better, it just broadens yor social circle.

6)"Fuck-Buddy" - Self explanatory.

7)Friend / Ex-girlfriend with benefits - Again, self explanatory.

8)One-night stand - I know when I meet this girl, this is what its going to be, and in most cases...so does she. Self explanatory.

Warrior I don't know if you've looked at your relationships like this before, or even want to. I've been criticized for being an asshole for doing this, to which my only response is everyone categorizes the people they meet, so shut the fuck up. Anyway, I use it as a way to stay organized and avoid problems with the girls. If you haven't looked at it like this before, do it. I myself am a very mentally organized person who analyzes the fuck out of everything. So this provides a structured way for me to keep my game on point with all the women, and not get sloppy towards one or another. Whether you realize it or not, your doing this anyway, its just a matter of making yourself conscious of it. Which is precisely what having game is all about. Anyway, I'm beginning to rant, and that post went on longer than it should have I think. Mix and match different combinations of the categories and you'll see what works and what doesn't. If you have too many of one kind or too many all together, you'll wind up loosing all of them. I've done it before and gone from 5 girls to none in a matter of like 2 days or so. Blah, getting back to work, let me know what you think of that and give me some feedback and more information on your set-up.


Responses to questions that didn't answer:

2) Met them all over, the ex is my highschool girlfriend, one was met in a book store, and the two others were from the club.

3) I just come right out and tell them I'm not exclusive, its not something I try to hide. Its woven into my personality, I've been like this since I started getting girls. When its shown in your persona and then you come out with it, I think they are more understanding to it. Or it could be how attracted they are to you, I'm not really sure. It probably depends on the girl. But yeah, I'll just hint to it in my conversations to them and usually tell them, sometimes not though.

4) Only drawbacks are running the risk of catching an STD, I've had a couple close calls myself, its something that can't really be avoided. However, I see it this way, and perhaps I'm wrong. A friend of mine got an STD that stays with him for his whole life from the first girl he ever had sex with, so why worry yourself about it? I mean, we shouldn't be looking for them but they are all over. Just watch the women you date, even then theres not much you can do about it. I wrote a post in here about an absolutely stunning who was sweet, innocent, and had only had sex with 3 guys before me, she gave me the clap without even knowing. Curable thank god. Other than that, the only drawbacks is sometimes you'll get an occasional slap in the face, or broken heart, or psycho girl, or angry boyfriend. Whatever.

Okay now its really rime for me to get back to work.

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Thanks for setting up this new format, Methusaleh.

My situation is currently: 7 women per week, each has their own regular night of the week where they show up at my place at 8:00pm for a few hours of sex and then they leave at about 11:30pm. There is a minimum of talking, so I never feel like there is any "maintainence" in the sense of having a girlfriend. In the past (when I was more of an AFC) I had (at different times) 3 exclusive, monogamous, serious girlfriends in the usual type of relationship. Those kinds of relationships are a lot of work.

The interesting thing I have found about the "weekly harem" arrangement, is that the women seem to actually love it despite it appearing to be completely and efficiently designed for my pleasure.
I discovered that there is something in almost every girl that makes her respect a very "alpha" demand from a man to have pleasure on his terms. They actually get off on the idea of "servicing" me regularly and completely on my terms.

I am not into one-night stands. I consider those dangerous because the women are fucking around a lot usually. The beauty of the "weekly harem" arrangement is that the women are usually far less promiscuous. That allows you to build trust (on a physical leve) with them that makes the"love making" so much more satisfying.

The key to this arrangement is to get the women into the routine fairly gradually and casually. You sort of take liberties more and more in your requests of her. You set the rules firmly but without fuss. After a few weeks "in the system" and the women seem almost addicted to the routine. Women seem to love the stability of a routine. You give them an exact day and time each week to show up and exact duties. They know what is expected of them. It works so well that it is almost like women have this programmed into them and you just have to set up the right conditions.

One important factor I believe is essential in the success of this method is complete confidentiality. You ideally do not want to have any social interaction with anyone other than you and the girl when you are together.
You have no friends or acquantainces in common. Basically it is a "secret redndezvous" for the girl each week. She probably does not tell anyone (except maybe a close girlfriend of hers) and she may even have a steady boyfriend (I do not ask the girls about those kinds of things. I fact I rarely talk to them other than ask to give them directions).

Maybe later in my life I will fall in love with one of my "weekly harem" girls and have children with her. Who knows. For know I enjoy the "pure sex" of the routine. It is the most efficient system I can currently conceive of for enjoying sex maximally.

Methuselah, regarding your point about the 5 women being too stressful. I understand what you mean but I have found a solution. I try to limit myself to one ejaculation per night. I save it for near the end of the session with the girl (just before she leaves I give her a present in her pussy to take home with her. I would love to see those panties of the girls when they get home!). Also, I spend a lot of the time doing the 69 position with the girls while we lie on our sides. This takes minimal energy and you can basically do it for hours while watching DVD movies. The women enjoy it and it feels great. You get her mouth action on you for a long time and you have that arousing vagina right in your face to lick and suck on at will.

When it is time for them to leave, that is the most uncomfortable part (not really too much though). I usually just pretend to fall asleep and they get up, get dressed, and let themselves out while I stay sleeping in the bed.

Sometimes due to schedule changes (vacations, etc.) there are slots opening up. I try to use these opportunties to recruit new women into the system. I call up (or email) a few girls that I like and invite them over to watch DVD movies. That is usually all it takes to get started. It is definitiely a numbers game. The more pospects the better. I am always prospecting all the time. Collecting telephone numbers and email addresses as much as I can. I think that it almost doesn't matter what you say to the girls. It is basically just setting up the trust, confidentiality and satisfying mutal needs. The verbal exchange to get there is usually almost irrelevant in my experience. It is a numbers game. Some women will agree no matter how badly you fuck up the approach. Others are just not going to go along no mater how smooth you are.

So far I really cannot say there is any problems with the system.
The funny thing is that with this kind of system you can sometimes reach an incredibly caring loving unspoken emotional connection with the women. There are long periods of naked hugging and kissing. Playing with a woman's pussy so wordlessly and for so long on such a regular basis puts you into a new category for her. You are her silent sexual fullfiler of her deepest sexual needs.

Anyway, so far things are great.
I hope this post does not sound too much like boasting.
I am actually here to learn and improve. When I look at what I have wrote above it looks like I am gloating but actually I am just so passionately proud about how good this system works. Believe me there were years in my past when I was not getting laid and desperately longed for it.
Now, I am getting much closer to the perfectly optimized regular "balanced diet" of of healthy sex.

Yeah, I've had several different routines and set-ups, several similar to yours, which in fact sounds pretty excellent. The reason I stopped having the sex merry go round that you have set-up is just because I met the two girls I'm in serious relationships with and had to reformulate my plans around them. If it wasn't for their superb personalities I would still be doing the same thing. They showed characteristics that few girls I meet have, so I figured I would try it this way for a change. If they leave, I will surely return to my old habits.

Yup, I've had that confirmed from several of my girl friends and girlfriends, they told me that its a fantasy that most girls share in common. Though it isn't their ideal relationship, they enjoy it because there is loads of pleasure involved in the routine. Among other perks.

As far as them loving the Alpha. What would type of Alpha would yo consider yourself? Just curious. My partners have told me their attraction to me is because I'm completely different than the typical alpha male. My room has 5 huge bookshelves filled to the brink with books of all types, almost every girl was blown away and continuously comments me on things like this. Claiming that "no-other guy like me" - to which I take they mean Alpha male - has his room lined with books and other things about my personality. I think its that I come off as a regular Alpha at first, but then they are surprised by how different I am than the run of the mill Alpha male. They said its my intellect that is the key factor that does it, I don't know what they mean by that exactly, I'm sure as fuck no rocket scientist, but nonetheless they claim thats what sticks out the most aside from initial attraction of looks, personality, and whatnot. This comes up because you used the term "very alpha" and thats what they used as well. Just wondering what kind of things you've heard from your experiences.

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Well, the one thing that I have learned (I always had this hunch but wasn't sure about it) is that you actually can separate the "intellectual and emotional" (i.e. talking) part of the relationship with a woman from the "physical" (sex) part of the relationship.

It is sort of like discussing Voltaire with one friend and playing teninis with another friend. You focus the relationship on the commonality and disregard the holistic "package deal".

I enjoy sex with these girls a lot. There is nothing like it. It is the greatest pleasure I know of. Fine food, unlimited spending cash, exotic travel, etc. Nothing compares to the simple pleasure of fucking an attractive woman.

Now, with a "girlfriend" or "wife" it is a whole other ball game of a relationship. In that case, sex is a small part of the time you spend with them. Worse still, sex is usually the "reward" she gives you for being a "beta" male. All those gifts you buy her. All that wasted time you spend socializing with her boring friends. Driving her to her appointment as favor. Listening to her yak on and on about completely uninteresting topics.

There are some women that I find fascinating to talk with about intellectual issues.However, these women are not always physically attractive (hot).

Regarding your question on the type of alpha I am. I like to think I am successful at building this harem arrangement because I am clear about my goals and I am direct and firm with the women. I guide them gently but firmly into a behavior that I exect them to follow. Since it is a numbers game (lots of fish in the sea) and they have no bargining power whatsoever (aside from calling it quits on showing up) they just have to put out if they want to keep the arrangement working.
So, in regards to alpha, I don't think it is really my personality or physical appearance that does the trick. I thihk it is the system and the firmness.

One interesting note to this method is that the women uncharacteristically give the most amazing blow jobs (oral sex). Far better than a woman would normally do when she is in a regular girlfriend-boyfriend monagamous long-term relationship. I woudl guess that married guys very rarely get blow jobs from their wives.
However, I find that these "weekly harem" women will suck my cock for hours and really put a lot of focus and "heart" into the task. And whats more, this breeds a kind of "take it for grant it and enjoy it" attitude in me.
I just expect it now. I just gently guide them in the direction and they suck and suck with a single-minded focus.
I remember with my last long-term girlfriend it was a major negotiation to get a quality blow job. I usually had to do something for her like take her to an expensive restaurant. Only then, reluctantly, did she give me the BJ (and it was nothing like the long BJs I receive every night now).
I think this kind of passionate service attitude from the "weekly harem" women is one of the best apects.

In fact, I am pretty sure that these women who are such good diligent and obedient cock suckers for their "alpha" man, keep their "beta" man on a short leash and rarely, if ever, give him a blow job. Life can be unfair if you take the wrong role. It really is like the animal kingdom on some hidden level.