Hello everyone, I`m new to this forum, obviously. I`ve been reading David Deangelo`s ebooks for close to 4 years now, and recently been watching Mystery`s videos on Youtube. Since I am most likely the mosy shyest boy in the universe, I never actually have put any of the things I learned to the test. I have been diagnosed with Social Anxiety Disorder, Selective Mutism, Depression, the list goes on and on. Despite this I am becoming more social and things are starting to look up to me.

A couple days ago I decided to go on the newbie mission, planning on saying hi to everybody, and maintaining eye contact with girls passing by. Out of everything I`ve done only two people have said hi back, and these are people like neighbors who I have never talked to, not strangers. One guy was saying hi to almost everyone who passed and when I said hi he just shut up and had this I don`t want to talk to you look. Nobody responds to me. Even if I`m wearing social pheromones (look it up). The only stranger who responded to my hi was a priest at a church I was passing through, gre-at!!!

Another problem I have is getting girls to keep eye contact with me. No matter what I do, no matter what I`m wearing, smell like, etc. They just don`t keep eye contact with me. I can be dressed well or dressed bummy, nothing matters. This one girl did keep contact and smile, but that`s 1 out of 150. If they make contact first, I`ll look at them and they`ll immediatly look away. I tried any approach, I`m not staring at them, I`m sure I`m not being creepy.

I know I`m not unattractive, I`ve had harems before, I`ve had the cutest girls in school ask me to proms, I`ve stolen a girl without trying from an actual PUA, I even had lesbians liking me! Despite this, I have never had a GF, had sex or anything. The only kiss I got was during make out sessions at age 5 with a girl who watched way too many spanish soaps. I just want to be able to pick up any girl so I won`t spend the rest of my life living lost opportunities. Help, please?

Not a lot of girls make good eye contact with me either, as a matter of fact not too many look at all. I'm a good looking guy and I dress well, so I know what you're getting at. Don't worry though, just because they don't show interest in you right away doesn't mean you won't get anywhere... I do a lot of cold approaches and am very direct at times, and I'm very happy with the results I'm getting. The way I see it, it's not a one way street... think about it this way, average guys don't make eye contact with hot girls because they're intimidated by them and making or maintaining eye contact makes them uncomfortable. Similarly, girls won't make eye contact with guys they are intimidated by. Now, most of the guys here will get eye contact all the time so what is it? Well, there are two things... either you're super, super sexy, or there is something otherwise intimidating about your appearance or the way you carry yourself.

Now, I'm not saying I'm so god damn super sexy girls are so intimidated they can't look me in the eye - far from it. I fall under the second category, thanks to the shaved head and the fact that I apparently look like I'm about to start a fight when I'm walking. Heh. So yeah, there may be something quirky about your appearance which girls are intimidated by, or you may actually be so super sexy that they can't look you in the eye. Either way, who cares? The idea of the newbie mission you're referring to is not to get good eye contact from girls or get them to say hi back anyway. The idea is to get you out of your shell so you're used to saying hi to strangers, so it will make approaches later on a lot easier for you. Don't be put off if hardly anybody says hi back to you, when you actually start talking to girls properly you'll be surprised how easily they open up and how quickly they become friendly.

I'm in your same boat mate. Lately I have tried repeatedly to open random hbs on the street with a simple question about the time, aswell as an opinion opener about my best friend's online one-itis.

But my AA rapes me almost everytime. I can do this at work to colleages and customers to a certain dgree, but still not as much as i'd like.


I have a very, very steep hill to climb.

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We all have our hills to climb vision. I think the important thing to remember is not to quit or give up on this because it wont go away. Just keep working at it. The only true failure is quitting.

As far as making eye contact with women, the best example is not look for girls to make eye contact with them. An example. Lets say your at a bar/club/where ever. You look around and you are actively looking for an HB. Other pick up on this. They feel you gazing over the crowd and its almost like a lion scoping his prey. This is were smiling comes into play. Have you ever laughed and looked away from your group but while you were looking away you made eye contact with a HB? This is more inviting to her because she sees you there laughing and having a good time, hence your value is being raised. You are not a threat because you are laughing and joking and having a good time while appearing friendly. Once you make that eye contact attached with a smile the approach should not even be a question. OPEN THE SET!

Man, congratulations, I think you're doing great, I haven't had the guts to try the "say hi to everyone" newbe mission.

I'm an average/good looking guy and I get some pretty cool solid EC, especially when i'm driving and the chicks feel it's safer to stare.

Dalziel is right, the purpose of the exercise is just to get you out of your shell, so keep it up.

I also have a very steep hill to climb, i've been working on my inner game and I already feel more confident when talking to chicks. Haven't done any cold approaches though and I still have to try an opinion opener.

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first of all, let me say u and I aren't so different. I do have a kind of social weakness (pretty odd cause it's only at specific situations, the rest of the time im as sociable as a stoned clown :S). no matter how cool u are or dress, not everyone is going to return ur hi.. there's good and shitty people, that's the world. and, in ur particular case (and this is just a wild guess from my part) i think that even though u dress cool and u look cool and u have everything in ur favour in the outside, u might have problems dealing with this new you, being kind of insecure and thus saying hi as if u were forced to. i repet, it's an honest wild guess in an effort to help u. in some way, ppl can smell that thing that determinates your mood. so, before changing your clothes or your hairstyle or whatever, you must convince yourself of what ur doing.. to say hi to that total stranger as if u knew him/her for months.. at some point, you got to know 4 the first time your nowadays friends right? Cause it is that unknown inner confidence what makes ppl thing "why is he so secure? what is he hidding?", at which point they even WANT to know your... all this with a full-confident "HI"..

that's all i can think of saying to encourage u man.. hope u can use it

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