Well guys i failed last time in my math class....lke i ask her to Mac donalds...lol....she laughed about it and gave me like a smile and said that was cute...but then the fallowing class she kind of like said no!!!!!....also she just broke up with her 4 year relationship about 3 months ago....and the worst thing i only have one more class to get her number....and i defently know if i would of asked her today she would of said no...because she is like that...so guys help me out i only have on class left to do this .please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

I don't know if its too late or not but here is my advice on asking a girl in a date ...

You don't ask her ... that way she can't say no .

You make a plan and let her know what it is about and that she is welcome to join you ...

You can also call ehr and tell her that your heading for a coffee and tell her feel free to join , and she will tell you yes or thanks but she has something to do , but you will not be rejected while asking her out because you just told ehr she was welcome but you never asked her out in a formal way ...

thats my 2 cents

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Well that kind of helps but what should i tell her next class to get her number the class is 3 hours long

what a looser u should go down on her... jp u know who this is rite?

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Mickey D's? Dude, go out for coffee whether you drink it or not (I'm assuming you aren't old enough for a bar). The air alone in a McD's is enough to kill the mood.

Be smooth about it, you sound a little too overexcited. You already have the hardest part down, got her smiling.

Now take a deep breath, walk up to her and say "I was thinking we could grab coffee after school on X day". If she says "I'm just getting out of my 4 year relationship" or "I don't like you that way" give her one back with "whoa, take it easy, babe, I'm just looking to get to know you better, not settle down". If she doesn't laugh at that then she has no heart and you're better off without her. Decide on the day/time/place in advance. If she can't do that particular day have a backup in mind. Above all, don't you dare buy her the coffee.

Have questions in mind before you go, stuff to get her talking and generate more conversation "how would you describe yourself in 3 words" (think of this for yourself too), "where do you see yourself in 5 years", "what's one of your favorite memories as a kid", "do you have any pets?", "no? would you like one?". Those aren't the best, depends on how much you know about her, but you get the idea. And, for god's sake, pay attention to her answers and maintain STRONG eye contact.

I know this guy sounds like a loser, and seems pretty damn desperate and one-itisy but if I were in his situation I would probably want someone to give me some real advice insead of making fun of me, but a month maybe even a few weeks ago I would have said the excat same thing, so I'm not one to talk. However on the topic of advice, Shermenator, here's my advice, inactive disinterest is when you demonstrate disinterest by not really saying anything to her and ignoring her, and that kind of disinterest is only in your head, so basically, you need to do some basic pickup on her, don't be afraid to make some mistakes, tonight make some stories and get ready some negs ready. That should be enough for now. Learn some pickup for girls later on.

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Well today in class....i ussually give her some preety strong attention...but today before i whant i decided to lay off and give her less atention...like i would not initiate a conversation with her...instead i would talk in general to the rest of the group...and since today was the last day of class....it was some hard shit to do since i felt llike it was not going to work ....but hey by the time i was about to leave class she asked me what i was going to do this weekend i was like wholy shit...shes talking to me ...lol...that proably makes me sound like a loser...but guys i really like this girl...so i kept on with the convo...but i did not let my answer drag on so long before i started talking to the group ...like i did not go on with a 1 on 1 talk...since i did not what to get to a moment of silence i opened te group once again...so when it came down to the end of the day...i was saiyng bye to everyone since it was the last day ...i said by to her last like she was not important...and lastly she told me to not be afraid to keep in touch ...and to drop a message on her myspace one of this days...so in general ...how do i aprroach her....thrue myspace.....like since i only got the myspace since she gave it to me like the first week of class...and i dont what to make it to aproaching like showing her i like her what should i type to her on myspace...or what should i do in general ...help me out

Personally, I don't think you're a loser at all and despise that term, it should never be used on anybody no matter who they are. You wonder why students get shot at schools? It's the ignorance and anger others thrust onto those with low self esteem.

My theory is you are young and just need to refocus your energy. I also agree you have some one-itis focusing on just her, but good job, Sherm, ignoring her and making her come to you today!!

I still think my above advice will work even with myspace. However, NOW you can show us what you are writing before you do it and we can critique it so let's get you this girl.

You got her myspace! Thats great! In my book thats an email close and lets not forget all the valueable info you can calibrate too.

You need to run online game on her.

Start off with a small, innocous mail. Something I like to use is "Topic: No one leaves you comments BODY: So I figured leaving you a comment would ruin my reputation so I emailed you instead!

GO from there.

Remember, in online game the idea is to go for the number AS SOON AS POSSIBLE! I like saying "I hate typing. You cant convey tonality or intonation. Give me your number and Ill call you when I have time" From there go for the date.

like i tell you all the time ... USE THE CAT-STRING theory!! and it worked bro and we talked about those negs cause Joce was tellin me how much of an asshole u were bein today... oh and guys this guys not a looser he just one of my best fiends he has a little bit of approach anxiety so i like to make fun of him cause he actually is an asshole half the time lol ma brotha ma brotha remember our rules of importance...

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Dude, there is one thing that you could do, actually there is many, but one is the smart thing to do.

If you keep on asking "what should I do?" with that tone, you won't get anywhere

Wanna know why women flake on you?

- You just have this girl, (dont even have her yet really), and she goes away, you have nothing. Translation: You seem needy

Solution: Get more friends, get a life.

- Your beliefs are completely wrong, she's NOT the PRIZE, remember, I know you still think she is, but there is time to start thinking different, the time is now.

Solution: Write down on big posters something like
" I realize Im the prize, she's attracted to me no matter what"
" Being with me is the best thing that could happen to a girl"

- You think the game is all about routines and lines, it's not, I bet your body languaje is pretty poor, and also your confidence, if you dont' change that, you won't go very far, even if you go on a date with her or get her number, it won't last too long, TRUST ME.

Solution: Practice your body lanugaje (extremely important), and work your confidence level up, (look up on the internet, listen to motivational tapes, whatever, but DO IT)


NOW, SOLUTION (OR WHAT MAY BE A SOLUTION TO YOUR WHOLE PROBLEM):
Befriend a couple of HOT GIRLS, notice I say befriend them, dont hit on them ( make it girls who don't know this girl you like), even if you're their drama boy, befriend them, then push her away a lil bit, ignore her, don't check her out, have fun, hang out with these girls

When she sees she's not the center of your attention anymore, she will look for it, believe, believe! lol

Well that's my two cents, feel free to send questions, make them smart

P.S: Some tough love is good sometimes

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ma brotha ma brotha romeo is rite im tellin u last nit i went sarging with mistajones and dude! between me and u, u still got it i just dropd that shit so good last nite as a confident , center of attention kinda guy, i number closed a model and jones was there... not bad for a start huh?... look... i know u can look like u r confident... but u gotta feel like it too... just ... idk pretend they r ugly

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Yeah man, Go to PUA lounge, and check my last post, is called "The Objective of the Game" it's worth reading, you will know what I mean once you've read it.

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