If you're pressured into it and drink because everyone's having one, not because you want to, you have serious work to do.

Go out for ten nights and have nothing at all, see if that changes anything. Try new things. If you see better effects when you're sober, stop drinking.

Things are easy for me because I love performing magic, and after just a little bit of alcohol I get sloppy. So I stick to coke or cranberry juice. Saves money, too.

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If you don't drink you won't get any better??
If you really need to drink to get out of your comfort zone, then your only faking your confidence. It may be harder to step outside your comfort zone without the liquid courage, but it's also one of the fastest ways for some people to learn to deal with their LSE or lack of confidence.

I'll usually have 3-5 over the course of the same amount of hours. When I was first getting out there though, getting over my AA I wouldn't have any I would get water if anyone asked I'd just say "this is too strong for you".
If I was found out I would either tell them I just wasn't drinking that night or I was a back-up DD.

Point being if you need alcohol to sarge and talk to women and you can't do it without it, your not being congruent with yourself and the girls can smell your need to compensate a mile away.
How many guys do you think they deal with on a regular basis that are drunk, or buzzed and trying to pick them up. They pick up even the idea that you need a few in you before you approach, I would think that would only come across as a DLV for yourself...

Just my opinion, you guys can do what you want drink/don't drink your choice.

Remember though if you need a lot of liquid courage...
The best look you get at her will be as she steps over your drunk ass to walk out the door with me

If you are going to game, don't drink to excess. Have a few beers just to fit in and just go with it. If you get pressured from other guys, AMOG them, if it's girls, than neg them. Labamba has a great routine on page one. Last night I had two pints and a "flaming Dr. Pepper" (half a pint of light beer, a shot of Amaretto layered w/ little bit of 151, the shot is than lit on fire and dropped in the glass, than the whole thing is slammed, delicious) buzzed but not near drunk. Some guys do better w/ alcohol (i.e. Tucker Max) but he is not one to follow for aspiring PUAs. Don't be afraid of a few drinks, and in the same light don't be afraid to try not drinking. Who knows, it may work better for you. Personally, PU was the reason that I realized I did not have to drink a whole bunch whenever I went out. The same can be said for marijuana. Don't even consider toking and than trying to game; just enjoy the high.

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Ohhhh no no no no no! Some of you guys are saying that getting drunk to get your confidence up is the only way to go sarge?! Thats terrible! If you start sarging that way, you will get better from plain experience, but you will believe its because of the booze. This is the easiest way to become dependent on drugs! Believe me, I'm one to know. You will eventually be wanting to drink before every event that you have the opportunity to talk to or see a girl.

You might be getting rid of your AA (Approach anxiety), but you will soon be needing AA (Alcoholics Anonymous).

If this isn't good enough for you I'll peer pressure you...AFC's get drunk at bars and try to game girls...You don't want to be an AFC do you?!

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If you like to drink just drink damn it!

Just dont get trashed!!!

If you can't drink and not get trashed, then maybe you need to look for another type of forum, one that deals with handling alcohol correctly.

This is definatly the stupidiest thing I have read all week. Using alcohol as way to deal with AA is absolutly retarded... Would you cover a gunwound with a bandaid? No, dont solve your problems with short term solutions. Are you going to run into the nearest pub to chug a beer if you see a woman you would like to approach walking down the street...

I used to drink when I went out and got some success but wasnt able to properly guage situations and remember my night I have recently started sarging sober or with casual drinking... this has allowed me to get more out of my interactions and learn what works and why ect. I give you mad props for taking the booze out of your game... this will help you in the long run.

As for people asking y u arent drinking.. you could reply with something like this maybe

"You wouldnt be able to keep up hun."

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Personal experience, from the first night I officially started my sarging campaign. I drunk some at the beginning of the evening, felt great, opened a couple sets and then started gaming the bartenders. I hooked the hottest one and got both e-mail and tel nr, quite an achievement for a newbie. I felt invincible, and kept on with drinking, mu mind went kaputt, I didn't realised the girl was had a lot of job to do and kept taliking to her, until she got irritated and at the end lost my chances with her. On a later evening, I started getting wasted and almost picked-up a fight with the bf of the hottest HB in the club. Now I learned, 2 or 3 beers, then coke/ water/ redbull or whatever (I always prefer to have glass in my hands). A little bit alchool is a lubricant if you are a newbie - and it's cool - but you have to be careful to set clear limit to your drinking or you lose control. The worst however, at least in my experience, is to get a little drunken, then sober, then start drinking again. It only makes you tired and sleepy.

Well, here´s my take and experience on the subject. I'm also a newbe/rAFC.

I think you should aim to be able to sarge without drinking on the long run. But everybody reacts differently to alcohol and also have different issues when approaching.

I had my first real breakthrough experience sarging last friday totaly pissed. But you have to consider that i'm used to it and can control myself pretty well. I never had the guts to open sets before that and I ended up opening like 7 and getting a couple of # closes. Other factors were present though which I think had a stronger influence.

It was the first time going out with my roomate and his friends so I got into a social mood before getting to the place. They are all AFCs but really really aggressive when approching girls so they got me in the mood to follow. Overall it gave me a BIG confidence boost which I can still feel. I had a chance to experience without anxiety how easy it can be talking to girls and how receptive they can be.

A tip if you don't want to get drunk.

Have a teaspoon of olive oil before you drink. You'll be MUCH more resistant to alcohol. Just remember not to drink coke if you do this, since it dissolves the oil and all that alcohol you drank will hit you at once. TRY IT!

Cheers!

I am new to the whole PUA thing therefore I am writing this as a normal guy rather than a PUA. However, I am 28 and do not drink and I have not been a drinker since I was 21. Over the past 7 years I have learnt that it is completely pointless trying to explain to anyone why you do not drink as they will always come back and try to figure out why. The best way to shut people up and leave it be is to be very friendly and when asked if you want a drink just say 'No thanks, I dont drink' and when they ask why I switch to a firmer voice and simply restate 'I dont drink'. People almost always leave it at that and I dont see why it wouldn't work for a PUA, it may even go to show DHV.

having a couple drinks is fine but ultimately you need to make you're own decisions. i dont drink that much but i used to smoke mad weed and i was being negatively effected by it where as my friends had no problems with it. so you have to decide if you can handle your liquor or not.

some excuses why your not drinking can be your a recovering alcoholic lol , your the DD, your on medication, your still hungover from a CRAZY party from the night before or you can just carry a cup of something and everyone will assume theres alcohol in it.

I don't see a problem in other people asking you 'why u don't drink'. I think the only problem is going around all the time empty handed in a club when everybody else generally has a drink. But that's easy to fix: just order coke, or juice, or low alcholic cocktais, or even just water with ice. People are not going to check all the time what you are drinking anyway.

When sarging I drink 1-2 bottles of beer max otherwise I loose my focus. And smelling of alcohol isn't the nicest thing either since I don't approach drunk girls but sober ones.

After the beers (or in between) I have water on ice. If someone asks then it's gin tonic.
Actually, I once asked a girl in a set what she's drinking, she had something like vodka redbull and I asked her to give me her glass. She expected me to give her my "gin". So, with a glass in both hands, I quickly emptied my water, then took a big sip of hers.
She gasped and look at her friend and girl-coded how evil I am. Then I gave her drink back. She kino'ed me afterwards

If someone still asks me why I don't drink I say with a smile "You can't always drink .. " or "Had a rough night yesterday ". Works well.

Also .. it's a good way to have a short chat with bar girls. They often smile giving me water and are curious to why this guy doesn't behave like everybody else.

I find i'm at the top of my game when im at a perfect, mild buzz, like 3-4 drinks, then try to stay at that level all night.
Just slowly sip drinks and make them last longer.
What ive also done, is go to the bar and get 2 waters, and they are usually in highball glasses and look just like vodka waters, and everyone assumes your double fisting, when your just drinking water.
Drinking is a downfall though, if im ever trashed, i find i cant think fast or witty enough to have solid game unless the chick is smashed too lol.

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