here2learn: I actually don't agree with either of your last two posts....


that chika chika yeah fake ID you've got tends to turn you into a "dancing monkey." People will use you for the alcohol (humm... sound like Superbad at all....). Without the fake ID, you're no longer entertaining, and then they will move on.


As for the putting on hold, and faking that another girl is calling you, that's just overkill for a high school girl. High School girls are already so insecure. By doing something like that, you are basically creating too much competition, which will result in the target girl loosing interest.

In high school, if the girl is into you enough to get jealous over something like that, you're already past the point where jealousy would do you any good.

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The phone thing - yes, it'll come off as unnecessary bragging. If you have phone # already, and *she* calls *you,* then it's absolutely unnecessary.
Never ever emphasize that other girls like you - subtlety is the key.
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DJ, actually it *is* a bit different.

With older girls, there are 2 things to remember:

1) (and I have to remind myself all the time of it) she is also human. Her age doesn't make her a goddess, neither her experience. There is no difference between her and some girl your age, except for her being couple of years older (I actually love to tease her about this, calling her granny - but only if the age difference isn't problem for her. If it is, I'll try to not to remind her of it).

2) They're not so self-conscious anymore, so my game is actually easier. She'll more likely listen to me (being more mature), act more politely (so she doesn't embarrass me), more likely to talk and open up to me (again, she isn't self-conscious anymore).
Also, with older girls, it has much more impact if you listen and connect -> on her level. If she can talk to you like an equal (luckily with me she can) it will definitely be a huge DHV.

I love gaming older girls, btw. It is a challenge (you aren't attractive because of some vain attribute you have that younger girls are impressed by). Older girls aren't "options."
Oh and only with older girls, I can truly flirt. These chicks of my age have no idea - they abuse me (I guess they can't take little bantering) or totally succumb to themselves, close up and won't speak a word. It takes more to really insult an older girl, and she gets that you are just flirting.

PS: KINO! THE most effective tool with older girls, being sexual (not a perv, just in touch with your sexuality) and touching her is most effective way to build attraction. While younger girls are usually intimidated by it, older love it.


Hope it helps, Carpe Diem.

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You are right about the kino bit...no absolutely spot on. Even frequent handshakes have worked wonders in building rapport...hehe ( i know that was naughty) and you views are totally significant with regard to gaming older (but more sensible in the head chics).. and they are just waiting to be teased like a kid...its almost as if they are literally searching for someone to make them feel that way..and who better than a junior..LOL
Thanks for your views Paetar.
P.S. I want to turn this thread and our discussions into something extremely informative to highschool gamers (not that it already isn't) but just to make it more active and relevant to how people look at HS game and what really works there. And how exactly do i intend doing that? Well, just putting across and responding to various queries of young PUAs.

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I'm glad there's a thread for us HS guys.

The problem at my school is that everyone is so party obsessed it's to the point of being stupid. I love to go to parties on the weekends, but I also have a bunch of other shit to take care of as well.

Honestly, if you don't smoke weed on all the school days, and get wasted every weekend, you're pretty much left out of the main popular crowd.

Most of my friends and girls I've dated and hooked up with I've met and hung out with outside of school. I go to a small school and have a small number of friends there, but about 20 times that amount outside of school. Does it really matter about being a social butterfly at school?

i honestly don't give a flying fuck

Well...to be honest with you...the social ladder is crucial to HS game ...though not the most important but still really valuable if u are popular. It does not mean u can't game a chic... if u dont attend these social commitments of urs such as parties etc. its just that the chances to meet new girls in a fun environment will get reduced and so will your group of friends. It will shrink to the point where you just have to concentrate on gaming girls in your own HS...and that sucks when someone who has known you for like a whole year sees a sudden change in your demeanour.

P.S. girls are not the only things in life...if you have other important shit to take care of ...take care of it first...allow girls only 35% of your time at most while you are in HS

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That statement is correct, but, I feel that it is correct in a different manner.

The key to High School game is to break the bounds forced upon you by the social ladder.

However, as someone(sorry, but I really can't look through 51 pages :-p) in the "Ask Zip" thread once said:

"... but you have to learn the rules first in order to break them."

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Do you know what popular REALLY means?

It means someone who is loved by lots of people.

That means that you should hang out with anyone, regardless of their popularity.

Which means that you will be breaking boundaries, liking everyone, befriending anyone.

That is simple. And even the popular people will like you, if you are interesting enough. And being yourself, not intimidated by their status.

Carpe Diem.

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On JOKES.

Jokes are a great way to enhance your social status. They show the humorous side of you, show that you're not just goofy or serious. But there are few tips every good joketeller should follow:

1) Be expressive. Express as much as you can, mimic voices, and make the picture of it happening in your head; look left when you are A talking to B, then look right when you're B talking to A, look down when you are "typing" on a keyboard, etc. Live the joke. This point is somewhat similar to storytelling.

2) Watch out who you tell your joke. Jokes are almost always poking fun at someone, so be careful not to insult anyone by it - or you'll make social interaction much harder than it was before. Choose the material for every set carefully. No dirty jokes in an all-female set. Usually.

3) - this goes with no.2 - Make sure the set likes you. If you tell a joke to a set who likes you, guys who think you're cool, you make your status skyrocket. But if you're not yet "in", than you'll only make a fool of yourself. Be sure the girl is attracted before telling her a joke; she'll love it if she thinks it's funny. However, you can have the best joke in the world, but if the girl thinks you're goofy or foolish, your joke - and thus yourself - shall come off stupid, boring and predictable.

4) Finally, don't tell more than one, *maybe* two jokes in a conversation. It is supposed to be a little island of relief in a sea of attraction and rapport. And NEVER, NEVER tell two or three jokes in a row. Two *sometimes* (if the girl is really digging it, and then you better be sure to make the next joke BETTER than the first one) but three never. It makes you seem desperate, looking for validation and boring.


Also if she doesn't get it, don't try to explain the joke (unless you can do it in one short sentence without losing all the humor). Instead, bust her balls on being stupid, and if she doesn't get it anyways, just say "forget it" and change the topic of convo.


On the end, I think that every rule can be broken if you're funny enough. Well, most of them anyways. But for us normal mortals (who don't earn their paycheck by acting in some comedy or performing as an stand-up comedian) it would be wiser to stick to these rules.

If you need to find some jokes, ComedyCentral has the best jokes I've ever read.

Carpe Diem. Bed's waiting.

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My question to you guys:
Which is better way of talking to girls via text or MSN. Or actually just people in general.

I tend to type in full english minus commas. But I feel this may make me be perceived as the nerd.

Well if the person ur talking to is familiar with chat lingo and short forms and the like...feel free to use chat slangs etc...but do not "rite stuff dey kant reed."
On talking to girls...via text ...late in the nights is generally my preference coz most of the time the girl will only be texting u not 100 others , whereas MSN works best during the first few initial chats u guys have and u can use all the cool features,emoticons,audibles etc. to make it fun.
No real problem with both text or msn.
Peace.

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Guys, from now on I'll be posting my high-school stuff on http://www.ap-seduction.tk/. It's great forum, I like it already.

Don't worry, I shall post the stuff that's not related strictly to HS too here. Like this thing, for example:

THERE ARE NO SLUMPS. THERE ARE NO "MASTERS" AND NO "SUCKERS."
It's all really names that we call someone because of their results. The funny thing is, these names and results are highly subjective.

For example, when you see a guy laying a new girl every night you may think "This guy has good game." However, he may see himself as a sucker because he can't bed two women during one night, or have a threesome.
Get it?

Now this is the part where it gets interesting. It works the same way with YOUR vision of YOURSELF. You may think of yourself a sucker, while someone would call you "master." You may think of yourself as a master, while someone would call you an AFC. Who is right?

NOBODY.

Your current achievements are non-related to each other. I mean, there are no "slumps" or "bad days" or "bad weeks." It makes no sense. One day you may do well, other one suck. The third day you can also do well. And at what are you? At a winning or losing streak? NO STREAK. IMO, your LIFE is a streak, the way you approach the problem is the "streak". "The Streak" is not based on external validation of your qualities. You are learning, and that's all. Learning and progress CAN be unpredictable.

And most importantly, don't beat yourself up by "breaking the streak". It's the worst thing you can do, along with believing "currently I'm bad with women", which both will make you only fuck up more. Actually, I learned this lesson from playing pool with my friends. Every ball you play is of the same importance. Even if you have thrown in four balls in a row, the next one is of the same importance as the first was. So don't sweat it. And your "streak" is just trying to get some cheap self-esteem. And this streak may soon end, and then you'll feel like shit.

Geddit? Any questions, PM me.

Carpe Diem.

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Quick one, simple one, good one:

When you get a girl's number during the night (or you spend an evening together), send her an SMS when you get back home. It can be as simple as "I hope you eased with the drinking and got home alright, goodnight" (reflecting on anything you did during the night together), yet it is very effective, especially when the girl is one of the "good girl" types. And even if she isn't, if you were interesting enough to stand out, she'll like it. I am not into SMS-game personally (body language and tonality are my weapons, phone is for setting up meetings) but this are some easy gained bonus-points. Just make sure you don't wake her up by sending SMS at 4'o clock in the morning.

Carpe Diem.

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thanks this thread has helped me quite a bit.

Most Welcome .

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Glad to be of help. Carpe Diem.

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