man thanks alot Rye, and since you are good I have another question for you.
How do you keep you alpha male when guys around you try to put you down? and can you point me in the right direction to finding more about how to tell stories to attract people. thanks

Some questions: she dances with other guys= shit test? Or not? Is she into me? What did I do well, what did I do wrong? When should I call her, and wut should I say? how long should the call be? should I still DHV on the phone and neg her, or should I just start build comfort? should I ask her out on the first call??

Hey, this is a shortened version of a thread i started that got no responses over here:
flaking-cancelling-dates-vt20503.html

Have been talking to an HB for about a month now from college, over that time got her digits, hung out after class a few times, lots of good conversation, teasing back and forth, bit of kino escalation, a few funny playful random late night texts. Asked her to hang out with me to do some shopping, she agreed but she had an exam the next week so she wanted to keep it short (3 hours) so she could head back to school to study later. After hanging at the mall, she says we can go out again after her exam, go to a better mall or something since we barely got any shopping done. I took that as a good sign.

Yesterday, she IMs me again, saying she was bored, had nothing to do. I told her I was busy studying...didn't talk to her much but I called her in the afternoon around 5pm, told her that I'm planning to study till 10pm, but that she should come pick me up from the college library at around 10pm and 'we will go on an adventure'. She agrees, and I tell her I'll call her back closer to 10.

I call her close around 9:40, no answer. I call back around 10:20, she answers saying:
HB: hey I can't come out actually, and my phone wasn't working when you called (kinda BS, her phone is working now, she coulda called me)
Me: i see. you should have called from home to let me know.
HB: well, i'm out right now - not in my car, so I couldn't call from home...I couldn't get my own car out tonight so I couldn't come, sorry
Me: well, have fun then (end call).

Her excuse seems pretty bullshit with the phone business, but it did seem like she was out, I thought I heard other people in a car with her talking. I just want to know, how would you react to her when you next speak with her? Would a PUA call her out on it, telling her how it was rude of her, and he doesn't put up with it -- or would he act as if it was no big deal, and he went out and had fun anyway without her (which I did).

I recently was at this party where you have to pay your drinks with these plastic coins (It's a terrible, terrible system...). Now I entered the building with an Alpha Male attitude (feet apart, smiley, strong posture, etc.) but as I had to stand in line for coins, I felt it was hard to maintain this attitude. Since my buddy's were already inside, I had no ways of socializing, unless I'd talk to the girls in front of me or the guys behind me. I couldn't do it because if conversation would die, I'd be "locked" in that position (considering that leaving the line is a major DLV). My question is: how would you handle a situation like this?

alright, so i'm frozen on what to do right now.

i've been myspacing back and forth with an HB8.5 and met up with her last night at a party. it was pretty loud, and she knew alot of people, so we didn't hang out that much. she was with her girlfriends. and i froze up, failed to isolate. but we talked online today and i said that since we didn't get to hang out like planned, that we were gonna have a re-do.

then i told her i had some errands to run tomorrow. mothers day stuff, and had to pick a few things up from hastings. and she replied with

HB:

Oh, sounds like a blast! But I think I'm gonna have to pass on that! thanks though!


i don't want to sound needy. but she's pretty chill and i wouldn't mind seeing where this went if i had the change.

how do i respond to that? or is all lost?

thanks in advance, i posted in the closing and day 2 section, and got no replies.


i did talk to her a little bit after this though, and told her something like

"don't say i didn't offer, after you hear what a blast i had running errands"

and she had a short reply. haha, alright or something to that effect


thanks

I've search for quite a while and not managed to find something that answers my question properly. Maybe I'm searching for the wrong thing, in which case I'm out of ideas.

However.

Whenever I'm talking in a group, and someone else who is alpha is dominating the conversation, I always find it hard to try to act alpha and take an active part in directing the conversation without seeming try-hard. One of my good friends is quite alpha (at least on first appearance; having known him for a while I have become disillusioned and can tell clearly when he is lying to seem cool or saying something because it bigs him up) and whenever I am talking to a set and he comes over he ends up dominating it and blowing me out, accidentally, just by being more alpha than me. Have you got any advice on how I can become more alpha without it seeming try-hard? I know about body language and stuff and, while not professing to be an expert, I am always on the lookout for his and others' body language when they are dominating a conversation and then try to use the same techniques myself, but the actual talking part is my current sticking point. And when sat down, it's a lot harder to use the same sorts of body language.