Hey everybody,

I've seen there are already a couple of questions about the zone, but i think mine is a bit different, just let me know if this case is hopeless or not. Here is the deal:

3 or 4 years ago i took a new job. One of my co-workers is a real HB. I've tried to date her then but I failed. We went on a couple of dates but nothing happend. (this was in a time before i knew anything about the game and I was a serious AFC)
A few weeks later a friend of mine did succesfully date her, and had a relationship for over a year. In the beginning this was very painfull for me, but i rather quickly was over it. In the meantime i quited my job and only saw the girl when i was with this friend, builing up a good friendship with her. (not knowing the damage i probably did). After a while the two broke up, me seeing her once a month or something.

Now (so 2 years later) i went back to my old job, and starting seeing her more often again. I couldnt help the feeling that i still want to have her in my collection...or more. For those of you who say that this sounds like oneitis, you could be right. I still have urges to other women, but she is kinda special.

The thing is, im head deep in the friendzone now. This ofcourse has some advantages (such as new socialgroups), but i want to get out. Normally you would say more kino i guess, but i already have that with this girl, so...nagging?

Just to be clear, im not affraid to lose her friendship nor with the friend of mine. I only have on goal...

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The thing is that it's been years since she classified you as a "friend" in her head, time has cemented that place.

All that "lots of kino" you mention? That's allowed because you're not just any friend but a "good friend".

It's unhealthy to drone over the same girl, especially if you were never even shared a mutual attraction.

At this point, I just cannot see any advice which would be of help to you.

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I don't know where the guy above me came from, but he's spot on.

You gotta slowly mix in sexuality in your interactions with her if you're ever planning on getting out of the zone.

Start off by talking sexually about other girls with her. Talk about a hot chick you met, talk about anything related sexually to other girls.

Then progress things into flirting with her and playfully touching her.

Then progress further and become sexual towards her.

There's no real 100 % working method for anything, but ^that's generally what I've done with girls that have friendzoned me for any kind of reason. It's not always going to work (like, if you want to escalate on a childhood friend, lol) but it's something that works in general.

If the results disappoint you and you have a hard time being around her, just tell her how it is. You can't be around her because only a friendship is too painful at the moment and you need space.

It's really hard giving solid pieces of advice in situations like yours, but it's something.

thank you guys. Sounds like great advise. But dont you guys think that i will mean it more like a joke or something? And do you think that most girl would have a problem with dating the friend of an ex?

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Getting out of the f-zone is hard, very hard. And it takes time. And even if you do it "correct", it may not happen. But these advice from Little Panda is some good pointers.
It may be that she takes it as a joke in the beginning, but you _have to_ start sexing up your conversations with her. Slowly she may turn.
In my experience, they dont. Ive been with several women that my friends have dated and Ive been dating several girls that are friends. Even sisters.
I have kind of this reputation of being honest(which I am) and direct. And when women have asked me about the truth about me dating their friends/sisters etc, I have said the truth. And whatya belive, the truth works

Oh and btw, when I say dating, I mean fucking.

Thx, thats all great help. I also heard about this theorie to ignore her for a while, do you guys think that would work or is it just of load of BS? If usefull, for how long?

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