So, I'm not really the kind of person that writes on the this kind of forums, although I have to get an opinion from you guys.

I've been thinking about this and, for me, it logically works but I've never tested it. I made some assumptions that I think that are logical but I'm a little confused so I want your opinion about this.

I divided this in 4 steps.

1st step is when you actually approach the girl. Normally I don't like the indirect approach because I think it always lead us to a situation where you don't have nothing logical to say, so I often use the direct approach. In my approach I'd use something like this: "Hey, I saw you walking down the street and I felt I had to come over here and say Hi because you're cute". Something like this. Why? First because there are not a lot of people that are able to do this, so this will cause surprise. Second because I think you need to say something which will increase her self esteem so that you can go to step 2. You will probably get something like "Thank you" with a smile or something because her self esteem is high. Now, in step 2 you need to lower her self esteem so that you can start a conversation with her. Something like: "How old are you?" she responds (notice that her response will be short - self esteem high, again) and you say: "Oh really? I thought you were older than that!". Something in this style. This will obviously low her self esteem. From now on you can have a conversation. I got to step 3 realizing that the things that people like are the things that they fight for! So, for me, step 3 is where you simply invert the game i.e. you simply think of yourself as a prize and you start to say things which will obligate her to qualify her self for you. An example of this would be: "tell me 3 things that make you different from every other woman". Once you get her number and after you get more confidence with her you start to do step 4. Basically you push and pull. Sometimes you give her attention and suddenly you disappear and things like that.

What do you guys think about this?

you wont know if it is any good till you field test it. I will see if i can tomorrow will post results.

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very VERY VERY similar to mystery method dude.

As i said, i dont use this kind of forums so i dont know somethings you said (mystery?). I was just asking an opinion.

You have a few misconceptions about approach & openings.

Direct game(which I never do)is much more riskier than indirect.

Going up to a hot girl and telling her "you had to say hi,you thought she's cute".

She's used to this!

Yes,she'd be polite and say thanks but it wont spark any unique feeling in the girl.

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Sounds like it'd work, except for the opener you plan to use. I wouldn't use such a direct opener. The whole point is to have her chasing you. In other words, you want her thinking "I'm interested. Is he?" not "Oh, he thinks I'm cute. Is he cute too?" or any thing like that. I know there are an overwhelming number of dudes who are AFCs, but that doesn't mean these chicks don't get compliments all the time. Usually a hot chick knows she's hot. It also conveys neediness. ("I HAD to come talk to you" A dude who's completely non-needy wouldn't HAVE to talk to a girl just because she's cute, would he?) And chances are, you'd be better off opening with a neg and then compliment her on something after she's done something to qualify herself. (Like your whole "What are three things that make you different?" question. Say she's into something like math, or other school-related things. You could say "Oh, I see. You do seem kinda smart...") This rewards her for qualifying herself to you.

So it might work, just reorder your shit and you might get somewhere with it.

@Ladies man-Great post.

I really dont know where certain dudes in the community get the idea that it's better to go direct in such cases.

Where's the friggin' intrigue & mystery in telling girl you like her or I "had to" say hi?

"Had to" is a fuccing obligation-a must!!!!

So to communicate to a hot girl,I "had to" come say hi is tantamount to saying,"you're the hottest girl on Earth and without talking to you I'll die".

The girl must and should be left to wonder,"is he into me"?

Which only draws her in more.

But if you're going up to her and laying it all out there,leaving nothing to her imagination,it's bad gaming.

Compliment openers are suicidal also.

I as a sesoned guy in social dynamics would stand a better chance at going direct and using compliment openers.

But for newbies,bad idea in even pondering going direct.

To go direct,your body languge and non-verbals must be superb.

That's an advantage of some naturals.

But for the average guy,newbies,etc.going up to an HB10(with AA)telling her she's cute is the faster way to get blown out.

In-direct game is much more superb.

Only time I ever go direct is in a night club where the chicc is almost half drunk.

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I've found this direct compliment approach works great in daygame. I don't have much experience of night game, but I'm guessing it wouldn't work well.

So you think we should start negging her right from the beginning. Actually, the opener was one of my major questions about this approach. Anyway, the bad thing about starting with a neg is that if you say to the wrong girl you will put yourself in a situation where you can be insulted. One more problem is that most of the openers are way too fake nowadays, like the "I like your nails, are they fake?" opener. Now, I've been searching for openers here in the forum and I read one that caught my attention. "Hey, are you a confident person to take a sincere compliment?" "sure" "me too. You start". After this you would demonstrate interest saying that you were kidding and that the girl looked calm and that was reason of you approaching her. So, this would be kind of direct. How can we change this so that it doesn't look so direct?

A good neg that my friend used when I was winging for him and his brother the other day was saying that she had saggy tits. (We were at the pool and her tits were practically hanging out) But you shouldn't care if you insult a girl. Especially with cold approaching. It's better to insult her and work your way back because it creates a bit more attraction and conveys non-neediness. If you're too scared to go overboard, something you could say is "Why do you keep looking at me you freak?" and then if she takes it wrong, just chuckle and introduce yourself and go from there into your routine.