I need some advice on this so I will know for next time.

My oneitis (who I am officially done trying to seduce after a lot soul searching and brutal honesty with myself) is a damn good looking girl, who's smart and funny and receives a lot of male attention as a result. But her BF is well... laughable. He's morbidly obese, a complete slob and is quite easily out alpha'd. He's big dream is to do as little as possible while getting paid as much as possible as a lawyer in some shitty little country town on the coast where there's very little to do.

When I first met this guy I was with a good looking female friend who had never met him before either... And she was more shocked than I was. He looked completely out of place next to a girl of such high quality.

Here's the thing, though... Despite his gross appearance, seemingly beta behavior and small time dreams, she is extremely attached to this guy. They've been together on and off for nearly a decade, she talks about him constantly and it seems like her entire life revolves around him.

What gives? A guy that out of shape can't possibly be fucking her that well so I know it's not the sex. Moreover, when I was still trying to seduce her I used the straw man technique and she revealed that he's leaving to travel at the end of this year and that she's not waiting and that he's not the one, etc. And yet, the next time I saw her here she was with the bf doing all the things with him that we had planned to do together.

What's the issue here? Was this simply a case of oneitis hamstringing my ability to create attraction and thus draw her away from the BF or are there other reasons why a girl who clearly has options would choose to be with such a low value guy who's on the outs anyways?

It's been 10 years of togetherness for them.

Only something akin to "A Clockwork Orange" of a mind wash will completely rid this girl of her attachment to this guy.

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man, I dont know...that is fucked

Okay. He's going to be gone for one year from December. She says she won't wait but do you think that's just bullshit? The way she talks about him I am convinced she won't be able to let go despite his absence which is one of the reasons why I have decided to give up on it.

First off why are you wondering? There are a million reasons why she may be with him. It can be anywhere from her having low self esteem to anything.

contrary to popular belief getting girls to cheat is not easier then getting girls that are single, maybe you might want to try a single girl until this one is available, or here is a thought if you want success with this girl, mimic her boyfriend or the type of guy her boyfriend is

I guess because I'm quite inexperienced and haven't encountered something like this before and didn't know what to make of it. Moreover, this has been a pretty terrible and crippling oneitis for me and I'm still trying to get over it so unfortunately my failure with this girl is still on my mind.

mr. pink pumpignton is right, plus girls are not visual, is about how the obesse guy make her feel, you are looking at the situation from a male perspective, women are not logical or visual like men...

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I use to be like you when I was younger and would see hot girls with similar guys and would wonder why they where with them and what have you. But the thing is you just be killing your self trying to figure out why. The best thing you can do is move on really.

Maybe you should pay close attention to him and try to learn a thing or two instead of trying to steal his girl.

There's obviously something seductive about him, if his body and behavior is so terrible.

Cuz at the end of the day his condition is a lot "worse" than yours according to you and he still has the girl that you want... So who's the true beta after all?

You insulted the guy on his physical issues, being 'beta' and such, but does any of that really matter?

The fact is, I doubt he's concerned about you or this thread, yet you're letting your entire existence revolve around this guy, insulting him and driving him down through your whole post yet it seems like he's done nothing wrong and is probably by all definitions another normal human being.

Is he really as 'beta' as you describe him to be or are you the one being the 'beta' right now by letting him have so much influence on you and what you do?

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I know what you mean, sometimes I see the exact same thing. Truly beautiful and fun girls being with a guy that just leaves you with the "WTF-feeling". I can only find two explanations...

1. He was the rebound and they actually worked out quite well.
2. He has an insanely large penis.

Is that a joke or something you've actually thought through?

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My entire existence does not revolve around this guy whatsoever. I clearly pointed out at the beginning of my post that I had given up on pursuing this girl and merely wanted people's opinions on what it is that this guy might be offering and people have been kind enough to provide their input and advice on that. I didn't insult the guy, I called it like I saw it at the time.
This is actually what I was getting at. I know there must be something seductive about him but I couldn't work it out which is why I turned to the forums for advice so the next time I encounter something like this I might be more informed.

I am not saying I'm some alpha OG pimp in comparison to him either. I know I'm much better looking but I'm only a rAFC and I'm still only learning the ropes. So perhaps you are right to call me beta for the moment.

If he is leaving, it will be time to "birddog" In the meantime, find a couple of girls and clear the pipes if thats what they're looking for. If your game is good enough, you'll pull it off.