So yesterday I spent all day with this girl. We were at a music festival and it was our first meeting. I didn't game her too hard but easily approached and broke the ice. Over the day there was a lot of IOIs. She followed me around most of the day and we sat and talked and I managed to DHV. Later in the evening we moved to an after party. We were talking again and I managed to get her number but in the end she had to leave. Somewhere in there she was approached by a mutual friend who also exchanged numbers (I think I missed my chance). I did ask if she wanted to continue hanging out as I needed to head off aswell (maybe too needy?) but she explained that she wasn't able to but that "I had her number and should message her". Her exact words. Have I missed my chance? Where do I go from here? Did I lose out to the other guy? Do I wait to message her? Do I arrange a coffee date or something casual or what should my next move be? Thanks.

There is soo much wrong here. The way you stated it looks like you did an amazing job opening and were able to develop that initial attraction. My question are did you kino, did you set up a time bridge, and why should the other guy even be an issue? You are coming from a mind set of scarcity. Sounds to me like you need to work a bit on inner game and less on tactics.

To answer your question, call her, keep it short, invite her somewhere you WANT to be and go, with or without her, if she comes AWESOME, if not go game some other girls where you are going. Also stay the hell away from inviting girls to coffee/movies/dinner, if you want to do these things that fine, but do something else first and make the movie/coffee/dinner spontaneous. Inviting a girl to a movie is buying a one way ticket to frown town.

She told you to message her, didn't she?

You should do exactly that.

And call her.

At this stage, you should focus on building a level of comfort and attraction with this woman if you want this to go anywhere. Focus too much on the "Too Much, Too Fast" thing and you're done for.

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Okay so there was slight kino on the day. But I didn't want to go too fast too soon like you said. I set a time bridge as we were leaving but I don't know if I did it effectively as I said that I had had a fun day/evening and that we should do it again as soon as possible and she agreed.

ANYWAYS. So I messaged her today (2 days later). The message wasn't to meet up or anything but was just to put myself back on the scene and play funny cocky I suppose (although I don't know how well I did - Like you said I think I do need to work on some inner game to). ANYWAYS. The message went "How are you going? I hope you have recovered from the festival. Odd question but were you on or around Blah Street today? I saw a cute girl that looked like you and may have made a fool of myself by attracting her attention or was it your twin sister? Haha". Kinda lame I know but it sorta gave me a reason to contact her without trying to set up a meeting and it was sorta casual but hinted that she was cute and that I was also out doing things etc. She responded "Lol you embarassed yourself my sweet! yeah i've recovered. i did spare a thought for you as i remember you had to see your parentals on sunday after the festival. We'll have to do it all again soon".

Is this a good response? It didn't really allow me to respond back so I didn't as I thought that she may not respond again there fore making it two SMS to me and one to her (And most text game says that you should never message more than they do). Kinda has some positives but sorta seems like a semi freeze out to? ALTHOUGH there is a window in there for me to arrange another meeting and she 'spared' a thought for me. Let me know what your thoughts are. Thanks for the response.

She wants you... relax. It's really hard for you to screw up but you will if you overthink. Suggest a day and an activity that she joins you in that will give you an opportunity to close on her.

"I know this awesome bar... blah blah blah, feel free to tag along." Be yourself. I can tell you really want her but don't make it so obvious to her. Stay in the lead.

Good luck

Thanks mate. I will just calm down and message her in a couple of days again maybe with just another playful message or to invite her along to something I am going to. I will just play it cool and not over think it as much as I am doing. Try and make sure that she isn't too aware that I like her aswell. Any advice for closing? And how would I 'stay in the lead'?

Your in the lead... that means you have already built comfort and attraction and youre on your way.

It's okay if she knows that you like her but keep it casual. Don't put all your eggs in one basket. Let me put it like this, based on the fact that youre worried enough about this girl to post a question about failing is enough evidence that you might lose her by over-comitting to her. This girl could be a 5 but if you keep worrying about her you'll have a better chance of closing on a 10. It all comes down to inner game and self doubt... You're not confident you're doing the right thing. Dude, she wouldn't suggest meeting with you again if she wasn't into you.
You're doing something right, don't screw up by trying to be someone else.

What I suggest you do is work on other girls. She is not your girlfriend, you owe NOTHING to her, just as she doesn't owe anything to you. That way if she flakes or falls through or she says or does something that makes you doubt your game (a shit test) it doesn't cause you to tank because you have other options. This will increase your inner game and pass any shit tests.


My advice on f-closing is to be natural when you're with her. Play with her have fun, make her feel good about herself. There's a lot about negging and knocking her down a notch but you don't need to do that if she's clearly into you and acting like a sweetheart. If this is the case, be a gentleman, be fun, and make sure you touch her. Very friendly touching to start, leads to holding hands/cuddling. Get her back to your place or hers and you're golden.

Be confident and be yourself.

Thanks mate. I will def keep that in mind. Try and avoid 'one-itus' and work on other girls, my outer game and inner game. Don't over commit and mess it up. I will try and keep it casual and see where it goes. I am pretty good at small talk and don't know too much about negging and so on so I will just be playful and show her a good time. Cheers for the confidence and help buddy!

SO. Taking your advice I sent a message saying: "Heading to have a few drinks and to see Blah Band tonight at Blah. Feel free to join?"

She responded: "Seeing Mr A and Mrs B but Blah afterwards sounds great"

My response could've been better: "Well I am not in the city right now but will be in Blah around 7:30-8:00. Just send me a message when you are in the area or let me know your plans?" (I think the 'let me know your plans' part gave her an out?)

And she responded: "Deal." SO. I left it at that with her having the last message and confirming the conversation.

So at about 7:00 as I am getting ready I get: "Much to drunk with A and B and have to work tomorrow. but lets catch up soon. x"

So that is all well and good I will just try and game some other girls at the show tonight. BUT only problem is how do I respond to the above text? DO I respond to the above text? Is this a shit test? I think the 'lets catch up soon' and little 'x' might be positives. Let me know your opinions and advice. Cheers guys.

Well, she said "Deal", didn't she?

No need to reply to anything.

Just go there at the said time and place and enjoy yourself.

If she turns up, well and good.

If she doesn't, then you can ask us for what to do next.

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" You're born alone and you die alone and this world just drops a bunch of rules on top of you to make you forget those facts. But I never forget. I'm living like there's no tomorrow, because there isn't one. "

But she sent me a message just prior to the meeting?

"Much to drunk with A and B and have to work tomorrow. but lets catch up soon. x"

So that is all well and good I will just try and game some other girls at the gig tonight. BUT only problem is how do I respond to the above text? DO I respond to the above text? Is this a shit test?

She flaked on you... it happens, Exactly the reason why you need to game other women. You didn't lose her but if she's your only prospect and you let it break you then you will lose her.

Just say No probs..next time.

Freeze her out for a few days, see if she comes back. If she doesn't send her a text as if you've been waiting for her to get to you. Simply say what's up, haven't heard from ya. hope everythings good. Are you free on day x?

Scratch that.. Actually I think that type of flake is bullshit. She had plans and she acted like an idiot and got wasted and then said she has work in the morning... which she knew she had when she made plans with you.


I would say Look ...I'm a busy person. I don't appreciate being flaked on last minute. If you want to make plans with me I expect you to keep them and you can expect the same from me.


Girls like this drive me crazy. If she doesn't like the honesty screw her.

Ah too late. Already went for the carefree whatever reply. Def need to have other girls on the map so will try a bit when I head out tonight. This didn't break me I don't really give a shit just want to behave appropriately and learn text game better. But yeh will freeze her for a few days and see what is up maybe Sat or Sun send a new text. All good but. Plenty of fish in the sea. Cheers fearless!

So the latest outcome. I went to hang with my friends who had been hanging with HB. One of my friends spoke to me and said that she spoke to HB about me (thanks) and she said HB thought I was lovely. But like a big brother or something. I am not sure how to take this. Not giving up but taking the convo with a grain of salt. I wish my friend hadn't said anything. Idiot.