Can I get help on indirect openers (day game)?



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:45 am 
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I'll open, attract (or whatever you call my pathetic attraction game), and the moment I get to comfort, the woman excuses herself and leaves; this has consistently happened ever since I started practicing indirect day game for the first time a few weeks ago.

I used to be direct, now I'm testing out new waters, waiting to state my intentions after the attraction stage.

As I stated earlier, all seems good until I hit the beginning of comfort. They will fluff with me for a bit and then excuse themselves, saying they are busy or they have to go.

Obviously, this must be because my attraction stage is weaksauce, or my fluff is boring. I mean, I'm still a newbie, my conversations are far from the Tarintino-like banter I see you guys post on this forum, but I feel I'm at least conversation well enough to not make her bored.

Can I get some advice on how to properly open indirectly?


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:02 am 
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if you are using MM your focus should not be waiting for comfort to show interest, that is not how it works,

off the opener, (opinion openers, or if indirect daygame, sometimes it is just easy to just ask for directions, or ask if they know anywere to go for fun in the city, then you can transition straight to qualification on OH WOW you must be *list quality that the place she goes for fun implies* then intro yourself)

anyways, with MM, all your doing is stacking openers until you hook, you will know you have hooked if she starts asking you questions,

you then dvh and neg, you are looking for her to show interest in you, even if she doesn't just fucking try to qualify,

it goes open hook, female to male interest, after 3 ioi's, male to female interest, c1

question that requests her to qualify for you, she qualifys for you, you show interest because she qualifies, then you disqualify her to give her relief from the tension,

cycle continues until she has jumped through a qualifier that requires a large investment, mostly this is all just compliance testing to see how interested she is so you can gauge how comfortably and smoothly you can escalate without problems/rejection, but it is not a perfect world and you should not wait for this shit,


if its daygame i say fuck MM, just go direct man, basicly you will get less numbers but more of those numbers will turn into f-close, if you go indirect, you get more numbers, but less f-close, more LJBF, chances are the numbers you got from indirect, that end in f-close, would have gave you their numbers off a direct approach anyways, so in the end if you have the balls to go direct, just go direct much faster results,

all this shit is just to improve your chances, it is not like outside factors are irrelivant, girls are just guys with ASD that need to be lead, they are still shallow, within 15 seconds of seeing you, she will be able to tell if she would sleep with you or not, this is not based on the attraction routines you run, but you need have more then your looks to get into her pants, unless you are extremely good looking and she is extremely shallow, also don't trust girls that body language are open to you, but verbally show disinterest, it is all just SMOKE AND MIRRORS, girls are all full of shit, its just tricks and lies,

good luck, just get out there and approach as much as you can, the more you approach and show interest/intent/sexual desire, the more it will end in f-close

good luck, just go out there


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